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Title: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on June 28, 2010, 07:33:26 PM
Dear students,
This is my personal observation that students who are involved too much in co-curricular activities are not good students at DIU. The prime duty of a student is to study, first of all, then comes extra curricular responsibilities. If you are very good in sports or event management or presentation, but your CGPA is below 3, you are probably not going to get a good job anywhere.

Of course, extra curriculum is very important for a student to lean many things and to grow. But please make sure that you have to study, first and foremost, then try to excel in other activities.  I was a very good sports person, i used to play cricket and football in inter-school and college competition. I became first in essay competition and impromptu speech competition. But i knew too much involvement in those activities could hamper my studies and i didn't let it happen so.  That's why we took a decision that to become a member in the debating club, a student has to maintain a certain CGPA. Excel in your studies first, then comes co-curricular activities.

All the very best

warmly,
Title: importance of self study
Post by: shibli on July 14, 2010, 12:42:50 PM
Dear students

The person who is self educated is really educated, goes a saying. Self-study is one of the most important things to do in order to qualify for an examination. Number of hours does not actually come into play when you can actually study for 2 hours with the efficiency of 4 hours slog and there’s no point in studying more.

In classroom teaching, there are several factors which actually hinder the outcome of good learning. Since, the syllabus is quite huge and teachers are burdened to complete the syllabus in a restricted time frame, they often go on a faster pace. Pace doesn’t affect one’s learning process as much as the duration of each class. Long classes actually saturate students and they often feel tired and become less receptive. And in such a situation, you can’t even take a break and let your brain become receptive again.

That’s where self-study outperforms the classroom teaching. When you are studying by yourself you can actually take some time off and take break in order to get back to your usual self as an average student gets tired in an hour and a half, let alone three hours at a stretch.

All you need to do is to, draft a schedule and start working towards your goal in a systematic method. Do not add up sky high study hours in your schedule as you are bound to lose on the track. Keep it straight forward and allot time to your subjects equally.

You should have understood that number of hours is not important but qualitative study is very important.

If you haven’t started doing this, start now as preparation which begins early will yield a much better result.  

You must remember if you have a zest, passion, enthusiasm, gusto for learning, you will have a zest for life.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: ashiqbest012 on July 14, 2010, 07:39:18 PM
I agree with you sir and I am involving myself in a different number of clubs. I always try to give the time to the clubs but some of my friends who are getting good grade point, they do not want to involve them self in different types of activities. They always run to get good G.P.A. and always go for consulting and they always try to get extra consideration from the teachers.

Thank you
Ashiq Hossain
Title: importance of good study skills
Post by: shibli on July 17, 2010, 01:12:33 PM
Dear students
Having good study skills is an invaluable asset in all areas of life, not just university. The term "study skills" encompasses a broad range of skills and abilities: time management, analytical ability, reading, writing, verbal communication, and others.
 
Essentially having well developed study skills will help you become a more confident, effective, productive and intelligent person in both your personal and professional lives.

warmly
Title: importance of studies
Post by: shibli on July 17, 2010, 01:19:05 PM
Studies in student life have paramount importance. Devotion to studies shall bring high qualifications and with merits thereby students can make their dream careers come true. Good studies and hard work can generate highly productive professionals and good citizens. Even in business a good management degree is an asset. While competitions are so tough these days, alone literacy is not enough. Survival is for the fittest; therefore one must be highly qualified to win in competitions. Hence that studies are vitally important is a proven fact.
Title: importance of studies
Post by: shibli on July 17, 2010, 02:28:47 PM
The objective of TEACHING should first always be to inspire students, be it inspire them to be better students and better persons. Learning can only come when a student is excited about what they are learning or how they are learning. The most successful students are those who have been inspired to become excited about what they are doing.



Title: importance of studies
Post by: shibli on July 17, 2010, 02:38:02 PM
Dear students

I have observed many of you don't have any passion or real interest for learning. All you want is certificate or degree. You must remember degrees without real learning is of no use. You will have to exhibit your learning in the workplace when you do job. You will have to perform, express, and show your skills and abilities that you have learned in the university. Student life is the time to take loads of pressure and learn. Otherwise you have to repent.

warmly
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on July 18, 2010, 04:23:48 PM
The duties of a student, from my perspective, are three-fold. First of all, the student must know and respect his/her position as a student. Next s/he must respect his/her teacher and submit to the authority of the teacher if s/he wants to learn and study effectively and succeed under his/her tutelage or guidance. Finally, Students must apply themselves to their studies and do well to prove themselves in all aspects of discipline.
Title: Duties of students
Post by: shibli on July 18, 2010, 04:34:22 PM
Students are always the back bone of a society. The progress of a society depends upon the performance of students in different kinds of educational sectors. So a good student is s/he who keeps in his/her mind that s/he has to serve his/her nation by making himself/herself a positive character of society. Student have many duties and responsibilities in their respective departments.

There are also some duties of a good student to perform them honestly. S/He should be respectful towards his/her parents as well as his/her teacher. S/He should always seek knowledge from teachers. S/He should complete his/her home work. He should be punctual. If a student is confused about any topic. S/he should ask his/her teachers about that topic.

A student should help his/her class fellows in solving their educational problems. S/He should be sincere, hard-working and co-operative. S/He should wear neat and clean dress. S/He should also know his/her religious duties. A student should use the books of library so that s/he may improve his/her knowledge according to its syllabus.

A good student should avoid to keep the company of bad boys and girls. His or her character should be excellent. S/He should avoid from smoking and abusing. It is below than his/her standard to waste his/her time in trivial manners. A student should always wear proper and decent cloth or dress.

But it does no mean that a student should become a book worm. S/He should also take part in games and extra-curricular activities. It is important duty of a student to seek knowledge with full zeal and zest. Hard work in key to success. Greatness is achieved through hard work. Nothing can be got without work. People who succeeded in the world were all hard workers. They did their work regularly and with determination.

Rewards wait for those who study seriously. In this regard, they should be sincere, punctual and hardworking. It is the duty of their teachers to guide them and parents should keep a contact with university authorities for the progress of their sons and daughters in studies.

If a student does his/her work honestly and painstakingly then s/he becomes a very successful person. Because hard work is the key to success.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on July 19, 2010, 03:36:15 PM

Students should have a sense of purpose. Many of our students don't know what they are going to do after completion of their degrees. All they want is any suitable job. That is not sense of purpose.

"Having a clarified aim with specific objectives before one turns 20 years, honing knowledge continuously, hard work and capacity to defeat the problems and thus succeed" should be the motto of our students.
Title: Having a sense of purpose!
Post by: shibli on July 19, 2010, 03:48:56 PM
Having a sense of purpose in life goes a long way to boost confidence. Everything and everyone has a purpose and leads to an expected end.

A purposeful life needs to be developed. You have to work it.

It is all related to the tools you already have in your possession. You have knowledge or experience, talents, and personality! These can be applied to your career, or doing voluntary work. It is all about fitting in and feeling that you are making a difference in life.

A sense of purpose gives you a feeling of accomplishment, knowing that you are achieving something and getting somewhere. It gives you something to look forward to every day; a reason to get out of bed in the morning with a smile. A purposeful life puts a bounce in your step and makes you feel so good on the inside. It leads to confidence, accomplishment, and a happy disposition.

Young people generally do not have a problem developing their purpose in life. They tend to face life with determination, hope and a vision of making the world a better place. They are just starting out and their main purposes may consist of passing exams, and building careers. They have a lot to look forward to, and that gives them a strong sense of purpose in life.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on July 19, 2010, 03:52:49 PM
Sense of Purpose is…

    * Having meaning behind what you do
    * Creating work that you care about
    * Developing synergistic relationships
    * Understanding why you do what you do
    * Living the life you want to lead

Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on July 20, 2010, 07:42:27 PM
There are many different ways of learning; teaching is only one of them. We learn a great deal on our own, in independent study or play. We learn a great deal interacting with others informally -- sharing what we are learning with others and vice versa. We learn a great deal by doing, through trial and error. Long before there were schools as we know them, there was apprenticeship -- learning how to do something by trying it under the guidance of one who knows how. For example, one can learn more architecture by having to design and build one's own house than by taking any number of courses on the subject.

In the educational process, students should be offered a wide variety of ways to learn, among which they could choose or with which they could experiment. They do not have to learn different things the same way. They should learn at a very early stage of "schooling" that learning how to learn is largely their responsibility -- with the help they seek but that is not imposed on them.
Title: objective of education
Post by: shibli on July 20, 2010, 07:45:25 PM
I would label education as that which shapes the character of students and provides higher education. Education should primarily prepare students in the real world after they graduate. The problem with education nowadays is that everybody simply focus on getting higher grades, so to say, certificates and get lots of awards by any means necessary, but what the educational institutes forget is that they should shape the character and personality of these students that will allow them to function in society as able citizens.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: rumman on July 22, 2010, 02:45:09 PM
I completely agree with Mr. Shibli Sir. Many students' objective is to get a good grade and CGPA. But I think these good grades and high CGPA will not fulfill the employer's demand.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: Shamim Ansary on July 22, 2010, 03:36:05 PM
If someone obtains a defendable geade, s/he is in the safer position.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on July 22, 2010, 06:19:19 PM
"Far have I travelled, and much have I seen"; And yet the winds tell me, there's still more to be seen!...
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: Rashed_019 on July 24, 2010, 07:14:48 PM
Sir i will try to use your advice in my life
Title: Having a sense of purpose!
Post by: shibli on July 27, 2010, 01:27:42 PM
Dear students
Sense of Purpose gets you out of bed in the morning with a mission.  It’s about creating a life that has meaning behind your actions.

Many people get a sense of purpose from their work lives and relationships.  Unless your work has meaning to it, you can feel unfulfilled and directionless.  Suddenly, when your work reflects what you are passionate about, there’s an energy force that carries you through the day.  You feel engaged and activated.

When your relationships with friends, co-workers, and family are synergistic, you have a sense of purpose that fills out the moment.  Surrounding yourself with meaningful people fills out your life and brings things into sharper focus.

A student must have a sense of purpose. It's not just about having vision only, it's also about every day's missions and objectives. An accomplishment of a small objective leads to fulfilling long term vision and goals. You have to carry your sense of purpose in your mind and heart every moment. You have to feel it, feel the urge to fulfill your objectives daily. Little success leads to bigger achievement.....
Title: Having a sense of purpose!
Post by: shibli on August 04, 2010, 10:29:36 AM

My sense of purpose drives me to do at least a good deed every day as Allah says in the glorious Qur'an in Surah Asar,

Verily humankind is in loss, except those who do righteous deeds, advise people (one another) to the truth, and to patience and perseverance. 
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: papelrezwan on August 05, 2010, 10:04:31 AM
As students should not always run for CGPA, as they should not always run for Extra Curricular Activities. The students who can manage both of them ultimately they will be gainer. This managing capacity is unavailable to the students so that they should be more careful about this fact.
I know someone who is very expert in event management but he got a CGPA 2.56 out of 4 and for this reason still he did not get a good job as he cant apply anywhere due to lack of requirement.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 05, 2010, 11:19:07 AM
Dear students

Please have a sense of purpose. Please think and have meaning behind what you do and try to understand why you do what you do and thus live the life you want to lead......

warmly
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: papelrezwan on August 05, 2010, 02:03:30 PM
As students should not always run for CGPA, as they should not always run for Extra Curricular Activities. The students who can manage both of them ultimately they will be gainer. This managing capacity is unavailable to the students so that they should be more careful about this fact.
I know someone who is very expert in event management but he got a CGPA 2.56 out of 4 and for this reason still he did not get a good job as he cant apply anywhere due to lack of requirement.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 05, 2010, 04:43:05 PM
Be so strong that nothing can disturb your peace of mind.

Talk health, happiness, and prosperity to every person you meet.

Make all your friends feel there is something in them.

Look at the sunny side of everything.

Think only of the best, work only
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on August 05, 2010, 06:28:58 PM
Dear Shibli sir

I agree with your speeches specially this sentences Please have a sense of purpose. Please think and have meaning behind what you do and try to understand why you do what you do and thus live the life you want to lead......
 Sense of Purpose is…

    * Having meaning behind what you do
    * Creating work that you care about
    * Developing synergistic relationships
    * Understanding why you do what you do
    * Living the life you want to lead


yes you are right ...I add something about extracurricular activities..In outside Bangladesh think that extracurricular activity should not be considered extra...It included study and in Bangladesh some people think that it just extra but  research was performed on the claim of fact that students involved in extracurricular activities receive higher grades than those not involved in activities..In addition, activities improve the overall student...Therefore, they help students to receive better grades by teaching them character building lessons, teaching them lifelong skills, saving some at risk students who would possibly drop out of University, and helping students develop social skills.

Education is not solely learned by reading the textbook for students can learn an incredible amount from their peers through extracurricular activities. Students learn how to compromise and work in a group. Extracurricular activities also allow students to meet and interact with peers that may not be within their close group of friends.....

Yes i also know that sometimes students can not maintain both of this...But they should try to maintain in all this....

Thank you
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 05, 2010, 06:40:53 PM
Dear Bidita
I agree with your view. I never said extra curriculum is not important. In foreign countries, scholarship committee considers a student's extra curricular activities in order to grant scholarship. But my point was we often emphasis more on extra rather than core responsibilities. For example, if Grameen Phone starts giving more and more value added services without giving smooth network frequency, will you buy GP? You will never. Because network is the core benefit for a subscriber. In the night of SOBE-BARAT, we offer NAFAL Namaz which is extra by ignoring FARAZ namaz. Allah will not perhaps grant NAFAL if we don't offer FARAZ. A person can be successful by reading, learning the communication skills and by associating with smarter people- said by a writer. So, you know reading is the core skill of education...

"Read, read and read, you will be a dignified person". The more you read, the more you learn.

Warmly
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: kazi shahin on August 05, 2010, 07:00:07 PM
Extracurricular activities can empower students to make their own decisions and help them gain vital experience and skills to lead them on the path to their future.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 05, 2010, 07:15:46 PM
Dear Shahin
If you cannot maintain a minimum CGPA-3, it will be hard for you to get a job. Most good organizations ask for CGPA-3.5. If you don't want to do a job, if you want to be an entrepreneur, i mean if you want to start your own business, want to be boss of your own business, you also have to study a lot; and if you study a lot, it will be easy for you to get a good CGPA. CGPA is logical sequence........

Take care

Warmly
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: kazi shahin on August 05, 2010, 07:21:48 PM
Dear sir

Thank yo. Remember,we have discussed about this fact before. I always appreciate you. You are my teacher & I'm your student. I don't know more than you.
 It is proved that, without good CGPA it is hard to get job. Even in the latest platform of Bangladesh sometimes the good CGPA also can't help us for lack of job vacancy. Its a big & challenging problem for us. I'm looking for a statistic related about this.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on August 05, 2010, 07:22:14 PM
Dear Shibli sir

I focus only  Extra activity should not considered extra.....I do not mention anything about our main job....
FARAZ namaz is important but Sunnat or NAFAL is also important.....Sunnat or Nafal gives us more NEKI......its good for our next life means after death..
We will do both.......

Thank you for your cooperation

Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 06, 2010, 10:29:52 AM
Dear students
Perhaps I couldn't make you all understand my point. Most of our students lack in basic study skills. They don't study according to the routine that they should prepare. That's why i always inspire you to carry sense of purpose every time, all the time.  Extra curricular activities are important like event management skill but not at the cost of your studies. I, being a member of Internship Internal Supervisor, observed that students who have already completed all courses' requirement of BBA, cannot answer the very basic questions like what is marketing, what is market, what is finance, what is the difference between loan and credit.  So, the question arises what have they learned in all these 4 years??? A student must know the basics of his or her studies. Most importantly, very often the interviewers ask the fundamental questions of a candidate's area of interest or studies. Students should also focus on their English language ability....  

It's true that all work and no play, no recreation just make us dull but we don't want students to be jack of all trades but master of none. Please focus on your studies, then try to excel in co-curricular activities. Your priority should be on your studies........If you want to excel in sports, then be like Sun and Moon, the twin students of DIU who got gold medals in the South Asian Competition. For another example, one of my students Sumon is always very good in co-curricular activities but his CGPA is more than 3.25, which is very basic and easy to acquire. Please don't waste your time in unproductive gossiping.....student life is the most precious time you will ever have, otherwise you have to repent.....

Warmly
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 06, 2010, 10:33:21 AM
"A person only learns in two ways, one by reading, and the other by association with smarter people."_ Will Rogers Famous American 'cowboy humorist'
Title: Having a sense of purpose
Post by: shibli on August 06, 2010, 11:22:38 AM
According to Dr. Bell if you write your new intentions every day for one year, your brain will actually rewire itself to do what you desire.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: rumman on August 06, 2010, 02:01:07 PM
Dear Shibli Sir,

I am trying to write every day to fulfill my desire. Thanks.
Title: Basic Study Skills: Timetables
Post by: shibli on August 10, 2010, 01:59:23 PM
The technique I’m about to show you is so simple, but I don’t know any students who use it. It’s incredibly easy to learn and will skyrocket your productivity but students stop using it around university. If a simple technique can produce such great results, why don’t people use it?

Because of its simplicity, most students assume it can’t help them. They assume the technique is for younger kids because of how easy it is to learn. The truth is, many successful entrepreneurs use this method.

If you take a second to learn this method I guarantee you will be able to complete your tasks more effectively, which will allow more time to enjoy life.

To give you an idea of how to set up a timetable, here is what I wrote today:

Tuesday August 10, 2010

5:00 – 5:30am Namaz

6:00 – 8:00 Studying Theoretical subjects

8:00 – 1:30 University Classes

2: 00– 3:00 Namaz and lunch

3:00--  4:00 Library work

5:00--  7:00 Reaching home, Namaaz, rest etc

7:00---10:00 Studying Math and theoretical subjects  

10:00 – Watching news channel, namaaz and sleep


You can get as detailed as you like, just make sure you stick to the times.

Allocating Time

If you give yourself too long to complete a task, you will be wasting time. Always give yourself just enough time. It’s better to give yourself less time than too much, here is why.

If you don’t finish a task, stop working on it and move on to the next assignment. Come back to this task once you finish the other on your list. This will prevent you from spending all day working on one task then realizing you still have other things to do.

Also, by giving yourself just enough time to work on something, you will be cutting out all of the distractions and little things that lead to procrastination.

Reference:http://themarketersclassroom.com/discovering-your-potential-for-success/
http://themarketersclassroom.com/articles/
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: ashiqbest012 on August 10, 2010, 03:27:40 PM
Sir, is it really possible to maintain the schedule? When I return home from my University, I feel very tired and we try to sleep a sound sleep. After I go to study table.  I tried many times to maintain my schedule but I failed to maintain it.
Will you give me some suggestion about maintain the schedule?
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: kazi shahin on August 10, 2010, 05:11:03 PM
Dear Sir
I'm completely agreed with you. We can do it. This would be the key of success. It’s a ideal routine. I will try to cope with this.  However sometimes it's become hard to maintain the routine. Every student is related with some more duty.
If you can show a process to find out wasting time & advice  to use the time properly, it would be more effective on us. Thank you very much. Please don't take my opinion other wise, it's my personal opinion created for bad time management of mine.      
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 11, 2010, 04:18:35 PM

You can make the routine flexible according to your needs and free time. But keeping a routine and following it will, no doubt, keep you in track.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: kazi shahin on August 12, 2010, 01:22:14 AM
Thank you sir

I'm sorry; I think I could make you understand my question. Let me ask again. Thanks again to give the opportunity to ask you.

My point was that to define my wasting time. If I can find out my wasting time then I don't waste my time. I need a formula or strategy which will define or show me my wasting of time.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on August 12, 2010, 09:56:05 PM
I think how to know wasting time is more then important how we spending time...????  If it is informative and effective then we will recognized  what is waste and what is spend actually ...
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 13, 2010, 06:00:32 PM
Whether someone is wasting time or spending time in productive way entirely depends on the person. It is he or she who has to think what he or she has done the whole day when s/he is going to sleep at night. Why don't you meet me? I can answer you whether you are wasting time or not after i have heard from you what sort of activities you are involved in........
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: kazi shahin on August 13, 2010, 07:24:23 PM
Thank you
I'll meet you soon insaallah.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: ashiqbest012 on August 13, 2010, 08:31:52 PM
I also want to meet with you sir, Please give some guidelines to effectively use my time.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 17, 2010, 04:57:52 PM
Students have to identify what their first responsibility is. Their first priority should be on their studies, then comes forum or other extra curricular activities...this is also encouragement to all those who hardly study.....

Why are some students Not serious about their studies? Because they fail to understand the purpose of studies...they have to be clear in mind that if they study well, they will have depth understanding and knowledge  of particular subjects which will eventually help them shine in life. 
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 17, 2010, 05:02:26 PM
"What is the purpose of education? This question agitates scholars, teachers, statesmen, every group, in fact, of thoughtful men and women. The conventional answer is the acquisition of knowledge, the reading of books, and the learning of facts. Perhaps because there are so many books and the branches of knowledge in which we can learn facts are so multitudinous today, we begin to hear more frequently that the function of education is to give children a desire to learn and to teach them how to use their minds and where to go to acquire facts when their curiosity is aroused. "
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 17, 2010, 05:03:55 PM
"The purpose of education is to enable us to develop to the fullest that which is inside us"

Norman Cousins, prominent political journalist, author and professor
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 17, 2010, 05:07:20 PM
Education purpose - this is the big goal in students' life. This means the first time in making an important decision. All the career opportunities are open for you if you owe a purpose of education that is like a big start in everyone's life. The chances of being able to be successful in this age are actually decreased, without the purpose of education. Employers' needs to hire people with a university degree, masters in different areas- this means what is the purpose of education so important.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on August 17, 2010, 05:09:40 PM
Education is everything....it modify our sense ,,,it helps to remove darkness of ignorance,,,it know to us what is the disadvantages of superstition ......
Two types of education we get..
1. Academic
2.Non-Academic

both is important......not only student but also be a good human being....
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on August 26, 2010, 04:34:39 PM
Bidita, we have to do our responsibilities based on priority. You see, you have placed the academic education in number one. Yes, both are crucially important. But in Bangladesh without good academic qualifications, one cannot even qualify for the competition in the job market. Even if you want to be an entrepreneur, you have to have sound knowledge in the area of your interest. It's out of the question to have sound knowledge without in-depth study...... I believe you will be a good student having CGPA more than 3.25 and alongside you will be a skilled person with extra curricular activities.  
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on August 26, 2010, 09:32:46 PM
Thank you sir for wish me luck..........
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: kazi shahin on August 27, 2010, 12:03:58 AM
Informative conversation. If you have a large dream, you need to break the rules but not the law. If you belief that you can do, if you have enough confidence on yourself you can go as you want. Don't be hurt on others speech.

Remember, If Barak Obama becomes afraid & hurt then he can't be the president of USA. But he became present by changing the world history!
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: rumman on August 27, 2010, 02:35:17 PM
Many students do not take advantage of the extra-curricular opportunities they are currently offered. They may instead waste their time lazing around, or maybe even making trouble. These young people do not know what they are missing, if they could be made to try other activities they would surely enjoy them and gain a lot of benefit.
Title: Know thyself-Socretes
Post by: shibli on August 31, 2010, 12:47:40 PM
Today a student came to me appealing, "sir, please give me A plus." He missed most of the classes, neither was he present in the presentation. He got moderate marks in mid-term. He didn't submit assignment. His marks on quizzes are poor. He is yet to appear at the final exam. Still he was urging for A plus. This is Not the only case. Students ask for A plus time and again without knowing and identifying their own caliber.  Some of them at DIU, I would say, don't know how much they should study and strive in order to get a desirable grade. Our responsibility is to make them understand the meaning of 'deserve' that they will get what they deserve. What is the use of A plus or A if someone didn't acquire the required knowledge in that subject or doesn't have required skill or caliber? What is the point of giving A plus if they don't deserve that. We, the teachers, should have uniformity in giving grades to our students, i strongly believe. We also have to instill sense of purpose in students so that they study for a purpose........
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on September 01, 2010, 02:19:39 PM
Students should be motivated to make of a habit of reading for pleasure......if they are able to find pleasure or taste in their studies, there would be eventually no stress. They should also have a sense of purpose which creates intrinsic motivation for learning. Many students at DIU don't have any sense of purpose......many of them study only night before exam.

All teachers should motivate their students to instill sense of purpose. Should students study only for certificates or good grades? Should they NOT deserve whatever grade they achieve? Some students don't know the meaning of the word "deserve". It's our responsibilities to instruct them these basic understandings.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: rumman on September 01, 2010, 02:27:41 PM
Dear Shibli Sir,

You have written the right things.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on September 02, 2010, 11:30:10 AM
Why should you study seriously?

1. To get a good job.

2. To become good human beings.

3. To be self dependent.

4. To support your family

5. To support your parents

6. To contribute to the community

7. To help the needy (to help those who need help)

8. To rehabilitate the poor

9. To help eradicate poverty from the society

10. I want to hear from you....
Title: Purpose of Taking Exams
Post by: shibli on September 02, 2010, 11:53:47 AM
Purpose of Taking Exams

The purpose of exams that a student takes is to measure how much you know about the subjects the exam covers. This is to measure how much you have learned about the material that was taught, usually within a given time period. The exams do also test your critical thinking abilities, but they also dig much deeper and test your specific knowledge on certain topics needed for your career path. The more you face exams, the more it would be easy for you to succeed and get over the exam phobia if you have any.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on September 02, 2010, 11:58:02 AM
Researchers say students can retain a teacher's lecture only 7% by listening and note-taking. So, students should make a habit of encountering exams more and more so that their real learning takes place. The more you sit for exams, the better it is for you.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on September 04, 2010, 10:26:47 AM
Dear students,

please don't pursue your teachers for good grade. Study hard, good grade is logical sequence. Remember, what you have learned from a particular course is more important than the grade you achieved. Try to achieve required skills, the organization will be crazy to hire you. No organization will be willing to take you if they think you cannot add value to the company.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: kazi shahin on September 04, 2010, 07:35:10 PM
Exam is the best way to judge yourself. There are no other option but exam. I'm agreeing with you sir that, the important things is what you have learned from the course.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on September 05, 2010, 04:17:58 PM
BODLE JAO, BODLE DAO

We have to change ourselves first, the rest will automatically change...
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on September 05, 2010, 05:09:45 PM


       Ato khonne line asha holo bodh hoe ............Yes sir I strongly agree with you that you say we have to change ourselves first, the rest will automatically change....
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: kazi shahin on September 05, 2010, 11:06:46 PM
It's time to appreciate those people who talk less but works rapidly & silently.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on September 06, 2010, 10:00:32 AM
Correct words shahin.........
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: nasir760 on September 06, 2010, 10:50:24 AM
This is the right way to change the world.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: kazi shahin on September 06, 2010, 11:02:42 PM
Change does not come in a day. It takes time & if you wish to do change you have to pay for it. In the modern age we are suffering from many problem. The main problem is ethical. We are not ready to show our gratefulness to other. We love to talk & giving advice. We don't think, we don't research, we only do copy.   
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on September 07, 2010, 01:47:04 PM
Shahin,

Aage nijeke bodlaate hobe........then you can expect from others......very often we talk about problems but we don't talk about solutions. We know there are problems but we don't come forward to overcome those. I know many people who speak for ethics are unethical.  So, we should know ourselves first of all and think how people judge and interpret us. But i agree with you on the point that we, people are ungrateful as Allah says in the glorious Qur'an, Human beings are ungrateful to the Lord though they enjoy the bounties from HIM. The bottom line is if Shahin, you are honest, nobody can harm you.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: kazi shahin on September 08, 2010, 02:17:11 AM
Dear sir,
I appreciate you. Knowledge & experience makes a man able to talk. If we don't have knowledge the it's hard to talk or gives opinion.

Sir, how you define a relationship between knowledge & speech using ones knowledge?   
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on September 13, 2010, 11:13:56 AM
Everything you need to succeed is already inside of you! Each one of you and us already has what it takes to live life on our own terms...we just need to be taught how to tap into that potential.

Maybe you didn't realize that already have what it takes. Maybe you've been told that you have everything you need to succeed, but you just don't know how to reach your untapped potential. Maybe you already know what it takes, but just haven't reached the point of commitment to take yourself to a higher place.

You've always known that you were meant for something bigger. You feel trapped and out of place in your prison...I mean daily activities or unproductive gossiping. You have a sleeping entrepreneur inside of you. You just need some direction. You've never embarked on anything so big and don't know where to begin. You need solid instruction, direction, and the tools tap into the potential that already lies inside of you; the potential to achieve everything you've ever dreamed of...and more!

Get a mentor who can help you out.....to discover your potential to the full. CDC can also help you in this regard.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Discovering-Your-Potential-For-Success&id=4587484
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on September 13, 2010, 11:15:14 AM
You Can Be Whatever

You Want To Be!

There is inside you

all of the potential

to be whatever you want to be,

all of the energy

to do whatever you want to do.

Imagine yourself as you would like to be,

doing what you want to do,

and each day, take one step

towards your dream.

And though at times it may seem too

difficult to continue,

hold on to your dream.

One morning you will awake to find

that you are the person you dreamed of,

doing what you wanted to do,

simply because you had the courage

to believe in your potential

and to hold on to your dream.

~ Donna Levine ~
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on September 13, 2010, 11:18:27 AM
When you set clear goals or objectives for yourself, when you dream big dreams and then determine to become the kind of person who’s capable of achieving the kind of goals that you want to achieve, you convince yourself, at a deep, subconscious level, that you’re absolutely unstoppable. You realize at last that nothing in the world can hold you back except your own thinking, and you don’t even let your own thinking limit your potential.

If you learn to be powerful and develop self-confidence by working progressively, every day, toward becoming the kind of person you want to be, and toward living the kind of life you want to live, you’ll unlock the giant within you, and it will never go back inside.

You can make it happen. I wish to see one day one of DIU students winning NOBEL Prize in any category. May my wish would fulfill.   
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on September 15, 2010, 10:27:41 AM
                                                     Bored? Looking for a new challenge?

So what's in it for you? You get to explore your physical, creative, social, political, and career interests with like-minded people. You'll find friends: Trying something different may bring you in contact with people you didn't know who share your interests and curiosity.

You can get involved with groups as a way to get support from other students with your background, such as Latino or Jewish clubs. A club or group also can be a great way to meet people who are different from you. Lots of youth programs bring people together with those who are different as a way to break down the barriers between people.

Participating in extracurricular activities helps you in other ways, too: It looks good on college and job applications and shows admissions officers and employers you're well-rounded and responsible. Specific activities help with specific goals — if you want to teach language or get a bilingual job, being the president of the Spanish club shows the depth of your commitment.

The most basic reason for joining a club or team is that it gives you something better to do than staring at the wall, wandering the hall, or napping all afternoon. People who are involved and engaged are less likely to become addicted to bad habits, like smoking or drinking.

Finding the Right Activity for You

Review the activities your university offers and listen to other students' experiences to find an activity that meets your needs. Think about your interests, abilities, and time — is your sister tired of playing chess with you? Do you wish you had more computer time? Are you tired of shooting hoops alone? Are you looking to meet friends or get support? Do you need to increase the appeal of your college application? Don't limit yourself to the familiar — try something new.

Think about different roles within groups that you might want to try — president, captain, participant, leader, support person. Each role is important. Being president teaches you leadership and management skills, but involves more responsibility; being a member gives you structure and is less stressful. You can also lend your skills in areas that are needed..

Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: Mostakima Yesmin on September 15, 2010, 10:37:59 AM
Dear sir,
I agree with you, cause 1st study then others.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on September 15, 2010, 10:41:57 AM
Study should be important ...I agree with Ms Yesmin ...


Thank you
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on September 15, 2010, 05:58:51 PM
Once you’ve identified your overall purpose/mission, the next step is to turn that purpose into achievable goals, projects, and actions. Once you have your overall context and your purpose worked out, you begin setting goals that would be congruent with that purpose.

Our Chairman sir often says, vision without action is useless
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on September 15, 2010, 06:52:28 PM
Respected Shibli sir

Really appreciative post..



vision without action is useless
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: Mostakima Yesmin on September 16, 2010, 01:17:20 AM
"Vision without action is useless" good post........
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on September 23, 2010, 03:50:43 PM
Communicative English, one of the major objectives of which is to emphasise on speaking skill, was introduced in the national curriculum more than a decade ago in order to enhance our students' overall skills, specially speaking skill, that were neglected in our curriculum since independence. But have we achieved any level of success and are we on the right track to achieve our objectives? The answer is a big "no."

In this article I am going to point out some of the reasons for which our students in general are not able to achieve even a rudimentary level of speaking skill even after they have studied English as a compulsory subject from the primary level to the higher secondary level.

First of all I would say that communicative method of language learning is a global phenomenon, and proper implementation can produce positive result. Regrettably, in Bangladesh we have not been able to use this method properly till now and probably success will not come until we take necessary steps.

Although the introduction of communicative English in Bangladesh has not enhanced the quality of our students' English language skill, it has contributed a lot towards the increase in pass rate in SSC and HSC examinations. In fact, one of the major reasons for the very poor output from communicative English is the exam system.

In Bangladesh, researchers have found that students are highly exam oriented and have no interest in things that are not included/important in the exam (this is not the fault of the students because we traditionally judge a student's merit by the marks s/he gets in the exam).

The text books (English for today) up to higher secondary level provide materials to engage students in oral communication by group work, pair work, dialogues, role-play etc. But since these things are not included in the public exams, students do not feel interested in such oral practice and language teachers face a lot of trouble in the communicative language classes.

Experts, while designing communicative English language materials for the students and guidelines/instructions for the teachers, provided sample questions that later turned into so-called model questions and students got real interest here. Now, in most schools and colleges, communicative English has dwindled to the practice of model questions that exclude the oral practice of language. These models, which are almost the same items from class six through twelve, have made the bar of exams much easier to cross.

In the present system of examination, it is very difficult for a student to fail in English because if s/he answers even randomly without being sure of any correct answer, s/he is likely to get at least pass marks, and in case s/he gets below the pass marks, examiners these days are liberal enough to enhance the score to the pass mark. One of the reasons, perhaps, is the pressure from the education boards that always want to raise the pass rates higher.

We all know that pass rates in English matter much to the average pass rates because most of the students who fail to pass in the SSC and HSC exams fail in English. In the present situation the education board authorities may feel complacent because the pass rate in English is no less than 70%, and that the number of students getting A+ in English far outnumbers those getting A+ in Bangla.

Also, those who are not familiar with the exam system may have this delusion that our students are doing better in English than in Bangla, meaning that they are gaining better in English than in Bangla. But the reality is different, and this can be guessed from the general impression that a huge number of our educated youths who have gained certificates but not good jobs in the country or elsewhere due to their lack of English language skill.

That English language skill is one of the most vital tools of success in the job market is not a present day phenomenon. During the colonial period some Indians/Bangalees reached the peak of success by learning English. This, however, had a negative impact in some cases when these English educated people suffered from "Anglomania." One such glaring example, we know, was poet Madhu Sudan Dutta, who developed a hatred for Bangla and started to write in English, but realised his mistake later.

It is time we realised the importance of English language skill, more importantly the importance of speaking skill. Bangladesh is gradually turning from its agro-based economy to a service oriented economy and agricultural land is shrinking more rapidly than ever.

In a service oriented economy our country is bound to be more impoverished and vulnerable if we cannot educate our youths with speaking skill in English. Moreover, our agenda for building a digital Bangladesh through vision 2021 will be jeopardised because in the present global context English language will be a driving force for digital Bangladesh.

In the present context of necessity of English as a tool for development I would say that the prevailing communicative method of English language teaching needs to be reshaped along with the exam system. In the public exam at least 20% marks needs to be allotted for speaking skill (that will cover listening skill as well). Then, students will be encouraged to develop their speaking skill. Practice of speaking English should be enhanced at least in the educational institutions and English classes must be conducted in English.

I would suggest that a lot of materials for discussion in English could be chosen from Bangla literature, including the literary materials of Bangla syllabuses of the respective classes. This will not only hold students' interest but also increase their passion for Bangla language and literature, simultaneously developing speaking skill in English.

From personal experience I have found a very good output engaging my students to talk about some Bangla poets or writers or on Bangla short stories and poems. Teachers should be aware that not all Bangla words have English synonyms because "no two languages are similar." Besides we can use our culture bound relationship words such as abba, amma, bhabi, assalamu alaikum, namasker etc. while speaking in English.

It is true that a language contains its speakers' cultures but as English today has become a language of the world we have to make it a language of our own, conforming it to our own culture.

As English language is an important tool for development, can't we prepare ourselves well for gaining this advantage? Can't our English language teachers say "ask not what salary you get for your job, ask what you have done for the students," For a teacher there is nothing better than making a permanent space in your students' minds.

Dr. Md. Abu Zafor, Associate Professor, Department of English, Jagannath University.
Title: differences between teaching and training
Post by: shibli on September 24, 2010, 02:45:31 PM
how do we define the fundamental differences between teaching and training?

First, let's look at definitions for teaching and training in the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary.

Teaching has many alternate definitions, including:

    * To cause to know something
    * To guide the studies of
    * To impart the knowledge of
    * To instruct by precept, example, or experience

Definitions for training are:

    * To form by instruction, discipline, or drill
    * To make prepared for a test of skill

Note that training focuses on skill; the definitions imply a narrower focus than teaching and possibly a shorter timeframe. We might associate training with the notion of exercises that we repeat until we "get" the skills we are trying to acquire - until they become almost second nature.

The definitions for teaching, in contrast, imply deeper knowledge and a longer timeframe. We often hear the term "lifelong learning," but I can't recall ever hearing about "lifelong training."

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Title: differences between teaching and training
Post by: shibli on September 24, 2010, 02:51:25 PM
Teaching provides new knowledge to the people while training helps the already knowledgeable people to learn the tools and techniques to apply the same.

Training is for a specific area where as teaching is, in general, a broader area.

To conclude, training is different from teaching.

“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn”, Benjamin Franklin
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: Md. Limon Hossain on September 24, 2010, 04:20:13 PM
Sir,

I do agree with you.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: goodboy on September 29, 2010, 10:24:45 PM
Mr. ashiq, you are right about what you said including the matter. But for me, all of us don't want to get involve in these kind of activities, hence they think that their education can be hampered. So I'm not against it, but sometimes I also get confused about these extra curricular activities....................
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on September 30, 2010, 03:52:03 PM
In our assignment and presentation, sometimes we get group-wise marks. But i think we should get marks individually according to our own individual performance. We all are not the same....our caliber and ability and our performances will be different...Sometimes one member who is the leader works harder than the others., but finally he or she gets the same marks as others who didn't even try at or participate at all.....Some of us just copy and paste the materials without references, they should be advised not to copy and paste. Some of us memorize and see the slides and present....I think we all should attend the presentation skill workshop which is going to be conducted by Tanzina Hossain mam soon.......

cheers!!!!!
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on October 02, 2010, 01:01:28 PM
We only look for marks and grades...........how many among us look for real learning........What is the use of grade and mark if we don't learn truly???
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on October 04, 2010, 11:58:26 AM
You are right in understanding and saying the appropriate tone of the students.......
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: Md. Limon Hossain on October 04, 2010, 12:17:41 PM
Ms. Bidita:

I do agree with you about real learning. Would you please share something about real leaning?
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: bidita on October 04, 2010, 12:47:59 PM
Real learning is all about having the depth of knowledge of the courses we study...then we have to be good at English speaking and writing. We should know the effective business communication skills....i think that's all....
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: Al Mamun Bhuiyan on October 07, 2010, 07:54:43 PM
I do agree with this matter .We want to learn real and our study should be practical.Extra- curricular  activities is very important for the student and as well as CGPA to get a good job.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: kazi shahin on October 08, 2010, 09:35:50 PM
What does it mean learn? How we can learn? What is the definition of extra- activity?
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: rabeyabusri on October 10, 2010, 11:58:46 AM
Yes Sir you are absolutely correct. We should maintain a minimum CGPA at first which is required by renowned organization then side by side it is also our responsibility to make our self able for the challenges & also competitive world.
Title: SENSE OF PURPOSE
Post by: shibli on November 28, 2010, 01:14:27 PM
In order to get out of boredom, students can enjoy reading for pleasure. They can do according to their hobbies like writing diary etc. Secondly, he or she can watch good programmes on TV. I watch Peace TV.

Some students waste time talking over phone unnecessarily while others waste time outside not knowing the priorities of their lives....for example: one of my friend's father spent most of his time busy with his career without giving any suitable time to his wife, who should have been given top priority. Now she is in mental disorder.

As a child, i used to play football and cricket too much. My mother rebuked me time and again. I didn't listen to her. As a result of that, i didn't get chance in medical college and BUET. I used to spend  a lot of time outside gossiping with my friends, now i understand i could have spent my time in preparing myself for TOEFL and GMAT and could have earned a scholarship.

We, people, don't understand many things on the moment we do. But we realize it in the hard way in the long run when it's too late and we pay the price of it..

Here lies the importance of peer advice, counseling and guidance.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: nature on November 28, 2010, 09:23:27 PM
Mr.Shibli Sir you are fully right. I strongly agree with you.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: rumman on November 30, 2010, 06:42:53 PM
I totally agree with Mr. Shibli Shahriar. If we don't give priority to the people and things that we are supposed to give, one day will come we will understand we have lost many things.

 
Title: Recklessness created by Technology
Post by: shibli on December 04, 2010, 03:50:32 PM
As i said earlier, students should have their sense of purpose. Some students think that they have sense of purpose but they don't comprehend this in practice as i feel. Most of them are going to astray. They just indulge their time hanging out with friends and classmates. Also, many of them are wasting time talking over phone with their friends unnecessarily while others are wasting it outside home in gossiping or chatting. They don't know the priories of their lives. Right or wrong can be discussed later, they don't even know what they are doing and why they are doing. The purpose of doing something is the most important thing. "One of the most key prerequisite of success is concentration. One has to pay his/her highest concentration if he or she desires to achieve a goal and to create a concentration, isolation is always mandatory. But how is it possible? Everyone got at least one cell phone in his/her hand and it is really hard to maintain the rule of switching off the phone.

A vital lecture is going on in the class and text messaging is going on at the same time which is ensuring a physical presence of a student in the class, not the mental presence.

The level of concentration that the students need over the night before the day of exam is no longer possible due to the unlimited use of mobile phones and internet. One is always under the access of other people which is never letting him/her to go into the depth of a subject and resulting a special type of education which is actually shallow and hazy. And the students who are going to the job market with this shallow education will never be able to contribute something for his/her personal life or for the nation either."
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: nasir760 on December 04, 2010, 05:04:02 PM
Sir,You are absolutely right. we should prioritize our task according to the importance. 
Title: misuse of internet
Post by: shibli on December 05, 2010, 10:48:37 AM
The Internet was originally designed to facilitate communication and research activities. However, the dramatic increase in the use of the Internet in recent years has led to internet addiction and misuse, especially among the youth.

The use of internet is rapidly growing in all spheres of life due to the enormous amount of information it offers, virtually rebounding answer to every possible query you make. However, if not used for constructive purpose, this immensely useful technology can also backfire. Some findings are as follows:

(1) boys spend more time online, surfing the web and playing violent games, while girls chat or shop online;

(2) Internet use causes social isolation and depression, especially for teens; and

(3) the youth misuse the Internet for anonymous identity experimentation.

Different studies are carried out to analyze the misuse of internet among the youth and how it may affect their education, health and career.

We should try to stop or cut down the misuse among children and young generation by using filtering software, by educating the parents and telling them to monitor their children and keep a check of the websites visited by their children.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13951719/misuse-of-internet-among-children
Title: Support Group
Post by: shibli on December 05, 2010, 02:28:33 PM
Everybody needs a "support group." Your "support group" can include family members, friends, neighbors, co-workers, a mentor on the job, teachers and coaches. It must feature people who share your directions or who have already traveled successfully in the directions you want to go.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shamsi on December 05, 2010, 02:54:47 PM
Today,I have observed presentations of some of my students.They are asked to share their individual passions and its effects on their lives.To my surprise,I found many of them mentioning cyber games,internet browsing,gossiping with friends by cell phone and the like.But it is a matter of optimism that they have a realization of its harmful effect too.Now,my question is,when people are aware of the negative effects,why they can not just drop it?

Shamsi
Department of English
Title: Priorities of life
Post by: shibli on December 08, 2010, 12:04:58 PM
We will be successful and eventually be happy when we get to know the priorities of our activities and act upon them. Many students don't know what they are doing and why they are doing so. They are just after vague(false) pleasure in wasting their valuable time. They are not being able to justify where real pleasure lies in doing anything. Thanks Samsi madam for your reply.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: nature on December 12, 2010, 09:41:40 PM
Study skills is very helpful for all students if they must obey it and maintain it. Thansk sir.
Title: Re: Priorities of life
Post by: goodboy on December 13, 2010, 08:30:09 PM
We will be successful and eventually be happy when we get to know the priorities of our activities and act upon them. Many students don't know what they are doing and why they are doing so. They are just after vague(false) pleasure in wasting their valuable time. They are not being able to justify where real pleasure lies in doing anything.

Sir, this is just what everybody don't meant about.........................It is strongly needed for us to sense the "sense of purpose"........................
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: aunoo on December 16, 2010, 09:57:06 PM
we know that the first and formost duty of a student of a student is to study. Apart from this there should have some extra curriculumn activities to have fun and to make enjoyment in life. Though in this present situetion we r mostly giving priority the second one. After that feel repulsion about that....... >:(
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: goodboy on December 17, 2010, 03:43:18 PM
Please aunoo.............give your signature in your profile...............
& yes..............today many more are doing preferably the extracurricular acts than study..........but you should realize the gravity of the necessity for study..............don't get agitated..............be positive.........

We must follow the majority...............means after study...............then you can enjoy anything..........  & impulsion differs to people from people................it varies............
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shaikat on December 18, 2010, 08:40:03 AM
It is true...
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: Golam Kibria on December 18, 2010, 02:07:13 PM
Extra should be mantioned extra.Because our main work of our life is important for our life.We work for our main purpose.After complete our main work we can participate in many extra works. It can be done.For that we can shine in our practical life.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: aunoo on December 20, 2010, 10:57:25 AM
@shojib........i tried but do not know how 2 add signature..........yap i agree with u...... it is really true extra is always for extra time in our life that mens leisure period apart from study...........thnx....
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: goodboy on December 20, 2010, 10:07:10 PM
Aunoo.........be with extra & consume your performance as much as you perceive..................& just do the following.........

1. Go to profile
2. settings
3. signature........write down your name, id, address, mob no. section, dept...............
4. save.............

Thanks for keep in touch.......
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: nature on December 21, 2010, 04:20:51 PM
I also agree with Mr. Shibli sir that, man can not fulfill his/her life with a good CGPA and a batter job. But also need some extra knowledge, habits etc.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: aunoo on December 22, 2010, 10:48:43 PM
yes faruq u r right but we hav to maintain ourself bcs we should not involve ourself so much in this that may harm our study.. we have to maintain it apart from study.... Bcs extra should be considered extra.............
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: goodboy on December 23, 2010, 08:34:20 PM
@ aunoo..............

If you do not make the signature................do it quickly............

Simply do it............like this........

1. go to your profile...
2. then click>>forum profile information>>>
3. then you can be able to find " signature" box at the below of the page..........
4. then sign it................

if any problem you face afterward...........just call me or send massage at my DIU mail.......

Have a good life.............
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: aunoo on December 24, 2010, 01:40:01 AM
thnx.............shojib as good boy........i got it........thnx..........
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: Golam Kibria on December 29, 2010, 02:14:08 PM
we all men have an purpose for our life.This purpose can help us to make a better life.We must have the sense of that purpose.If we do not have the sense of our purpose we cannot meet with our success.So we must get the sense of our purpose.If we have the sense of our purpose,We can build up a good career.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: Golam Kibria on December 29, 2010, 02:22:44 PM
Education is a very good and important element of our life.The main objective of education is to build up the students career good and give him a better position in the world.Th main objective of education is to provide us many good and knowledgeable things,which can help us to get a better life.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: Golam Kibria on December 29, 2010, 03:49:34 PM
Objective of education is to get the right way of life.If we get our education for getting a CGPA,it cannot bring a good thing in our life.So we must get our education for getting knoledge not for CGPA.Than we can meet with our purpose and can build a better life.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: Golam Kibria on December 29, 2010, 04:02:04 PM
Importance of self study is very much.It  can develop our mind and knowledge.So it is our duty to build our extra knowledge by self study.Self study can give a better and more advance knowledge about world.so we should take self study in our home.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: goodboy on December 29, 2010, 08:31:30 PM
@kibria...........

Please post your own point of views in "common forum", "feelings about DIU".............etc..............

Don't do the same thing in a particular topic. It harms the objectives of the post.....................

Do better................
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: nature on December 29, 2010, 09:05:36 PM
The main duty of a students is to timely complete his or her study and then do extra work.
Title: How much do students retain???
Post by: shibli on April 23, 2011, 02:33:19 PM
Let me share some findings on how much students retain what the teachers teach or instruct. The information is extracted from google.com
"Learning retention rates from various instructional modes.

"Lecture - 5%
Reading - 10%
Audio Visual - 20%
Demonstration - 30%

Discussion group - 50%
Practice by doing or studying- 75%
Others: (Exams, quizzes, presentation, Assignment) - 90% "

Regards
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on May 31, 2011, 01:45:20 PM
What does it mean to be 'independent' at university?

    * University requires more independence than high school
    * Being independent at uni means that you are responsible for managing your studies and your time.
    * BUT 'independent' doesn't mean 'alone'
    * Nobody 'does' uni all by themselves
    * Being independent means knowing when to ask for assistance

A major difference between school and uni is the higher degree of independence expected from uni students. Being independent at uni means that you are responsible for your learning.

Uni allows you far more control over your work than school. However, Uni also offers far less supervision. In high school, teacher-centred learning is common. You might be used to teachers reminding you when work is due, letting you know what to study and how to achieve good marks.

University learning aims to be student-focused: an approach that requires you to learn independently, plan your workload, meet deadlines and organise your time.

This level of self-managment can be a challenge. Some students thrive, others find it difficult to adjust at first.

Being Independent

'Independent' doesn't mean that you have to tackle everything 'on your own' or 'alone'. As a uni student, it is helpful to think of independence in a different way.

Independent learning doesn't mean 'learning alone'; it means 'to be in charge' of your learning. After all, the primary meaning of the word is 'self-governing'.

We live in a society that places a high value on independence. It is deemed bad to rely too much on other people. But working with others or seeking support and advice doesn't indicate dependency! No one at uni does it all by themselves. If they say they did, they are probably overlooking those that helped them.

http://www.lc.unsw.edu.au/firststeps/diff_ind.html
Title: Differences between High School and University
Post by: shibli on May 31, 2011, 01:54:18 PM
What are some differences between High School and University?

   Leaving high school and entering post-secondary study is a big adjustment for students.  If the student is aware of some of these differences, he/she will be better prepared for the changes in attitudes and behaviors necessary.  Some of the differences can be:

1.    Classes are usually bigger and there are a lot more students on campus

2.    Instruction is mainly lecture method with students taking notes

3.    Students need to be more self-directed and are expected to be more independent.

4.    Student progress and attendance is not closely monitored by the instructors.

5.    There is less contact with instructors, less individual feedback and less time is spent in class.

6.    Group projects are often required so you will have to work well with other students.

7.    Time management and planning are critical to success

8.    Your performance will be based on each and every quiz, assignment, presentation, etc

9.    Being able to use the library effectively is essential.

10.    Failing two or more courses may result in your being asked to withdraw from the program.

11.    Students are responsible from making their own study schedules and following the schedules conscientiously.

   What are some things you should do to prepare....

Don't put off studying, even if leaving things until the night before has worked for you in the past.  Given that the workload is consistently higher in university, constant effort and study is imperative.

Identify areas where you need support (time management, study skills, writing, etc) and ask for help - ask your professor where to find help or seek out the information through Student Services.

Keep your options open by maintaining good grades that will allow to entrance into further study.

Plan study times within your day. If you have an hour between classes, go to the library and review notes.

  http://www.bretoned.ca/guidanc2/what_is_the_difference_between_h.htm
Title: Differences between School and University
Post by: shibli on June 01, 2011, 10:55:23 AM
"Difference No. 1

The teachers won’t spoon-feed you like how your school teachers did. On the first day of class, you’ll only be given the course outline and the reading list. After that, you’re supposed to find all the books in the list by yourself at the library. It’s just up to YOU, the students, to take the initiative to study hard!

Difference No. 2

Your timetable MAY not be up to your expectation. Unlike school, your classes will be scattered throughout the day.

Difference No. 3

You’ve got to be more independent in university. No mother to cook you home-cooked meals every day. But if you live near home, then lucky you. If not, you’re stuck with the canteen food or outside food.

Difference No. 4

At school, you’ll meet your classmates every day and then get to know them easily, right? At uni, you won’t get to know all your course mates in the first semester. That’s because there are so many of them and you won’t meet them every day. It depends on the courses all of you are taking. Maybe you’ll meet some people more often than others. So, basically, you’re meeting new people almost every day until you won’t be able to recall their names.

Difference No. 5

In uni, you’re in charge of your own life! Nobody, and I mean NOBODY will boss you around or nag at you. Nobody seems to force you to go to your room and study, etc.

If you don’t study, you won’t be able to cope up and then you won’t know how to answer during exams too. If you go online too much, you won’t have time to study. It’s easy to get lost in cyber world because there are free Wi-Fi spots all over campus. But do make sure you spend your time wisely. Don’t get too caught up blogging or chatting on MSN because then, you’d have wasted time that you should have spent on studying.


But the most important thing is, you’ll experience new things. You’ll learn a lot from your courses, your activities, your friends and your teachers. You will learn to stand on your own two feet. University really prepares you for life."

By a foreign student
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on June 02, 2011, 07:37:31 PM
Henry David Thoreau wrote, "In the long run, PEOPLE hit only what they aim at. Therefore, they had better aim at something high."
Title: dream
Post by: shibli on June 02, 2011, 07:39:06 PM
Dream is not something that we see in the sleep......dream is something that does not make us sleep. So, make a dream that will drive you to become great in life.....
Title: Re: dream
Post by: Golam Kibria on June 03, 2011, 08:33:46 PM
Dream is that which can force us to work for the achievement of that dream.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: goodboy on June 03, 2011, 10:04:46 PM
A dream entitles the power of attitude we posses. We must execute our dream in such a way that this attitude can be our pride 'n honor.
Title: Degree is not everything
Post by: shibli on June 09, 2011, 11:11:01 AM
“In this hard world of experience that will be tested will be other than those required in an examination hall. Perseverance and a capacity for hard work, integrity of purpose and character, shrewd judgment based upon accurate knowledge, an understanding of human characteristics and sympathetic approach to all questions involving human welfare- are these qualities that will stand you in good stead in those days to come”- W.A. Jenkins 1955.
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: nature on June 10, 2011, 11:33:26 AM
Good CGPA is very much important but if you know the better knowledge its can better for your life and it can help you all time in any situation.
Title: Success in student life
Post by: shibli on June 13, 2011, 05:09:40 PM

It’s the difference between knowing and doing that determines success. 

Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on June 13, 2011, 05:12:10 PM
Dear Faruque

Does your GPA reflect your intellectual ability? If not, why not?

What changes must be made (by you and/or others) so that your GPA WILL reflect your ability?

It’s not over ‘till it’s over, and YOU determine when it’s over!

Change strategies when necessary, but never give up your goals.  If you can dream it, you can achieve it!

cordially
  
Title: purpose of student life
Post by: shibli on June 14, 2011, 10:29:23 AM
The purpose of student life is to foster the development of students, that is, to foster the most salutary qualities of character.

Student life should allow students to confront and solve complex real-life situations as an ongoing part of their learning process. Each student should establish their purpose/mission in life, create tangible goals for four to five years and design a life collage.*

*collage means the art of making a picture in which various materials and objects are stuck on a larger surface.
Title: Read, read and read
Post by: shibli on June 14, 2011, 03:39:36 PM
Reading not only increases our knowledge but also makes us capable of living in this world with ease.
  
Reading is an active mental process: Unlike sitting in front of the TV, reading makes us use our brain. While reading we would be forced to find out or reason out many things which are unfamiliar to us.
  
Reading improves our vocabulary

Reading improves concentration and focus

Reading builds self-esteem: The more we read, the more knowledgeable we become. With more knowledge comes more confidence. More confidence builds self-esteem. So it’s a chain reaction. Since we are so well read, people look to you for answers.
  
Reading improves memory
Title: The importance of reading
Post by: shibli on June 14, 2011, 03:42:45 PM
If we read a lot, we will always have something to talk about: Have we ever found ourselves in an embarrassing situation where we didn’t have anything to talk about? Did we hate ourselves for making a fool of ourselves? Do we want a remedy for this? It’s simple. Start reading. Reading widens our horizon of information. We’ll always have something to talk about. We can discuss the stuff we are learning in the business books we are reading as well. The possibilities of sharing become endless.
 
Title: WHY DO PEOPLE GO TO UNIVERSITY?
Post by: shibli on June 16, 2011, 11:16:58 AM
We study in university for many different reasons. I think the most important reason is to gain more knowledge and learn more skills. Of course, there are also many other reasons that we, people study in university such as to get more friends, and increase one's self-confidence or to study further.

These days, most jobs require people who are educated and have good job skills. Therefore, the people who want a good job have to study hard and at least graduate with a high education. Furthermore, as technology advances all over the world, more and more education is required of people.

The people who graduate from university seem more confident in our community. These people are more respected by society. Many people want to be respected and to be important by family, friends, their bosses, and others in their lives. They find that most of them can confidently talk and do their jobs as they are more educated. Therefore, most people want to get the confidence through the university study.

In today's society, people need more knowledge and skills to be adapted. The university study is a good way to achieve this.



Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on June 16, 2011, 11:20:31 AM
University is a place that the students can learn more and new knowledge and experience in it. Of course, different people have different reasons to study in university. For example, some people want to be to go on a further study after they graduate from the university; some people hope to find a good job after their studying in the university and also some people wish to exchange their present situation through studying in the university. In my opinion, no matter what reason people study for studying in the university is just a preparation for their future’ life.

Students can learn new knowledge and experiences from the studying in the university. There are many teachers, professors with abundant teaching experience who teach students lots of new knowledge and help them to solve the problems in their study. With their help, student can learn a lot of useful basic and professional knowledge which is very helpful for their future’ work. and study. After they finish their study in the uni, students go to work in the society and contribute to the different fields.

All in all, students not only can learn lots of new knowledge from the books but also can learn much more necessary experience such as how to arrange time and how to cooperate with other people. It is very important for their future work and life.
Title: the pleasures of reading
Post by: shibli on June 16, 2011, 11:26:58 AM
The pleasures of reading

Greater the mind is cultured, greater will be the derived from reading for reading makes a full person.


There are great masters of writing in all great languages of the world. English Language abounds in such great authors. Again it may be poetry, novel, fiction, drama, travelogue, and letters. Biographies and autobiographies, form a sizable part. In these days of rush good magazines supply the material for reading. For example, one may cite the Reader's Digest.

In order to enjoy reading, one must cultivate that habit. Reading is not the 'be all' and `end all' of life. Yet, it can be ennobling. There is dignity in reading habit.
Title: Financial Success & how to achieve it?
Post by: shibli on June 18, 2011, 04:35:29 PM
Financial Success & how to achieve it?


These factors may include problems being solved, financial or other performance targets to be achieved. Where the factor is a fuzzy one (such as users being happy), this should be expressed in measurable terms. A good success factor should always be testable.

Many years ago I made the decision that I wanted to become financially successful, yet I was never taught in school or at home exactly how to achieve this goal.

What is it that makes one man march forward all his life, accomplishing, earning, and multiplying his wealth and his happiness - while another man never gets started? What is it that gives one man great personal power, but leaves another ineffectual? What makes one man able to see his way through any problem, finds his path over all the rough spots of life to the fulfillment of his dearest dreams - while another struggles, fails, ends nowhere"? The answers to these questions were exactly what I was searching for. I got out my highlighter and began to score every word or sentence which I felt may when united provide the insight needed to fulfill my dream.

According to Napoleon:"Fix in your mind the exact amount of money you desire". As soon as I read the words I was struck with the thought - the ultimate goal is to make money.

by one of my students
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on June 22, 2011, 05:09:09 PM
Dear students
There is no alternative  to good education, appropriate knowledge and good behavior in order to set a successful life, be it in any profession.

Title: Study plan
Post by: shibli on June 23, 2011, 01:59:48 PM
Phase 1:    Read or preview chapter(s) to be covered in class…       
before class. (Create chapter maps)

Phase 2:   Listen actively, take notes, participate  in class.

Phase 3:    Review and process class notes as  soon after class as       
possible or as soon as you get home that day. Don't leave anything for tomorrow.

Phase 4:   Intense Study Session.


Repeat   
Title: intense study session
Post by: shibli on June 23, 2011, 02:04:12 PM
2-5   minutes:      Set goals for next 40 min.

20-40 minutes:      Read text more selectively
            Highlight important information
            Make doodles/notes in margins
            Create mnemonics that means create key words or techniques to remember
            Create concept maps

5   minutes      Review what you have just studied

10 minutes      Take a break

To doodle means to draw picture or patterns while thinking about something else or when you are bored

Repeat
Title: Re: Extra should be considered extra
Post by: shibli on June 27, 2011, 06:26:12 PM
http://www.100studytips.com/topics/business-study-tips.html

http://www.100studytips.com/topics/english-study-tips.html?gclid=CIeU-OeK1qkCFcoc6wodgTr6dA

Take Time to Rewrite Notes after a Lecture
One of the best things that you easily can do, and one of the great English study tips, is to rewrite your notes when you leave a lecture or a class - this is a great practice. When you do this, it can help a lot because you actually start to retain information as you write down more and more of it. When you go over everything, it will make sense to you and it will be easy when you need to use those notes to actually study. You’ll have organized notes that will make it so easy to walk through everything when you need to sit down and study.

Find a Study Group to Help You
Another great option for English study tips is to form a study group. As English study tips, a study group is a great idea because it will allow you to get with your peers and see what is going to work the best. You can sit down together and go over everything and ensure that you are picking up what you need to. Plus, generally, when you put heads together, it makes it easy to come up with missing information and find an answer.

If you need to figure out some great English study tips, there are a lot of great little things that will help you get the most out of your classes. You want to make sure that you are getting the best grades that you can from your classes. With the right study tips, it is going to really help you get the most out of your classes and get the best grades that you can, which should be your goal. Look at options for English study tips and see how you can effectively study for your classes.