Daffodil International University
Faculties and Departments => Business Administration => Business & Entrepreneurship => BBA Discussion Forum => Topic started by: shibli on April 28, 2010, 01:45:46 PM
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Dear students
When you start doing jobs, you will understand that coming and going are the flow of life. This is very natural.
Some of our teachers left DIU because of one main reason. They got the job in public university like Dhaka University. But very soon one day will come when teachers will stay in private university like DIU. Why?
Because the teachers' environment here at DIU is better than any other university in Bangladesh. Even those who left DIU said that DIU teachers' interpersonal relationship is the best. Then why do they leave? This is very natural. Most of Dhaka University lecturers who worked in DIU earlier are now abroad for higher studies. So, this is very natural. People come and people go. We have to accept this phenomenon.
I know some of our earlier teachers joined govt. and private banks, NGOs, and private companies because they didn't like the teaching profession. People's mission and objectives are different. I personally know Ms. Nasreen Shahnaz, one of our teachers went to UIU and then migrated to Australia. She is no more in teaching. Some teachers who went to some other universities are not happy there. Some others left due to their personal interest. But all of them appreciate the environment of DIU even now. So, we have to accept this coming and going.
But we are trying to retain our good teachers who are helpful and cooperative to the students. People will come and people will go but we will be trying to keep good teachers....we have to remember that everybody's life style and vision are not the same. People's missions and objectives are different. We all are different..... our goals and objectives are different...our ambitions are different, our wants and demands are different.....
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sir thank you for telling us the reasons, why our teachers' leave DIU. i agree with you that the mission varies person to person. so they will come and go.
SoHaG
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Thank you sir for sharing the very important matter with us.
Sometimes our students may feel frustration, specially when they see there favorite teachers are leaving.
But they also should think the reality and have patience to cope up with the changing environment which is really important for there future.
Regards.
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Dear students
Let us all be positive in our words and actions. In every organization people come and people go. Nobody can force anyone to stay for ever if he or she does not want to. For your information, in the USA, people who change their jobs frequently are considered more skilled than those who stay in the same organization. It's about your perception as well. Oneday Ashik, Dider, Moheuddin and Debashish have to leave DIU after graduation. This coming and going sustain the flow of life. In our case, most of our teachers went to Dhaka University (DU), to their mother institution to do service.
But yes, we will be trying to retain our teachers from now on except in the case of going to DU.
About campus, please don't worry. NSU shifted to their permanent campus after 18 years, you know. But we will do that very soon insallah.
However, Ashik, Dider, Moheuddin and Debashish, why don't you meet me sometime on the 3rd floor, Price Plaza? I can listen to your views and can give you further clarification.
Warmly
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Thanks Shibli Bhai and our beloved student here for exploring a great discussion. I am motivated by this developmental discussion very much. I will love to join their as an additional listener!
Can I?
Regards,
Raju
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Raju bhai
Why are you being a listener? You can also put forward your valuable comments and your point of views. Please join this discussion. I would be delighted if you do so.
regards
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Thanks for invitation. Let me know time to meet you all.
Regards,
Raju
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Thank you sir for telling about the reason of leaving teacher from DIU and I agree.
But it is good sign for DIU. When a teacher go from DIU to other University that uiversity feel that our teachers were very well qualfied.
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Why is DIU one of the best? Because our website along with web activities is so rich that we are getting recognition from all over the world. Many teachers have publications and research articles in reputed journals. International research organization and publishers pick the articles of different teachers from DIU web-site and are interested in publishing those internationally. Many of us like Mr. Mahbub Parvez, Mr. Masud Ibn Rahman, Mr. A. K. M. Fazlul Haque, Mr. Bimal Chandra Das and many other respected faculty members will be getting loyalty for the research work they carried out. All credit goes to DIU, i think. Because it's DIU who gives us the platform to let our research work familiar with the International publishing bodies.
Also to mention, DIU is the first University that recognizes and grants remuneration for our research work. To know more, please talk to respective Head of the Department.
Finally DIU is the first university that has introduced Gratuity for the employees. So, let's think before we leave.
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Look before you leap
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Well said Sir
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i think so, Sir
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I hope teachers will not leave DIU from now on. The benefits have been increased. We have congenial atmosphere. We have owned more than two third of Price Plaza. About me, I have been serving here since February 2002. I had the opportunity to settle down in the UK and had the chance to work with the British Council and other university, but for me, DIU is better and hopefully it will be the best........
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Shibli Sir, I totally agree with whatever you said... But I'm in a great dilemma, if I should put my comments over here or not, as I'm a mere "newbie"... But I'm writing this because I think that I should know about this stuff... I know that it is wise to avail opportunities but is it absolutely ethical? For example- I knew a former DIU teacher who use to be a brilliant one, and he has been acclaimed internationally. But, when he saw that a brilliant opportunity is knocking at his door, to be a teacher of a top most varsity of BD, he left... So my point is, shouldn't he respect the DIU authority and love the students and remain a "loyal" figure of DIU? And he should have considered, that he'd a gr8 asset for DIU over the time. I am sorry Sir if i had said any degenerated stuffs...
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Wherever someone works, he or she should work sincerely as long as s/her remains there.
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:)Shibli sir,
I'm very happy to be a student of your class. & Really you said the right thing.
As I saw & realized, our university is the best from all. Because we have the potential to mark the topr place by delivering the best shots.
Shajib
101-11-1375
Sec: B,
BBA
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We should not run away form the country for good life or elsewhere. It never pays, we will be uprooting ourselves from our own root. Life abroad! We will be treated there as an alien--or at best a second class citizen. Things are getting tougher because of religion and color and skin. The country has given us a lot. Now it's our turn to give something to the country, our people.
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its very important problem..!
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"We have failed to teach our students to love their motherland."
- – Dr Muhammed Zafar Iqbal
TS: Recently undergrad engineering students are showing a tendency to leave the country and settle down abroad for higher studies or job opportunities. Are our universities incapable of facilitating Master or PhD level research work?
MZI: Obviously our universities are capable of conducting Masters and PhD level research work, many universities are conducting such projects. Engineering students moving abroad for higher studies is more about preference. It's not that we are not capable of providing the facilities of a standard research work; these are bright students and they might feel they can go and study anywhere in the world.
It is a continuous outflow. If you survey, you will find out how many students are serving their own country and how many are serving others. You might even find 99 percent students of some major universities in Bangladesh are leaving the country to serve others.
Students often complain about lack of resources and funding as a major reason for moving abroad for Master or PhD level works. Do you think it is a legitimate reason?
No, I don't think it's a valid reason. We somehow have failed to make our students feel for their motherland. We have failed to make them realise that they have responsibilities towards their own country. Our students study with the money earned by the poor people of this country, but they do not feel like returning the favour by serving the nation that fed them. They just go abroad and work there. It's become a trend now. The brightest minds of the country are leaving her.
If resource and funding were the major motivations or key to success for research works, then Saudi Arabia would have been the most technologically advanced country in the world. But it is not. In engineering, there are other factors actively influencing; there is passion, sincerity, patriotism and etc.
We, as a university or an authority, have our limitations. We have faculty crisis. As the department head and senior-most professor I am not supposed to take any courses but last semester I ended up teaching six courses, which is a lot of pressure. Most of the teachers in my university are recent graduates and my students; they are very young. Being young is actually a good thing but if I had five or six professors, I could have designed the department differently. Being young and recently graduate, the present teachers are sent abroad for PhDs, so that they can come back as professors. But this process creates a faculty crisis. Limited funding is another reason for this faculty crisis. Where BUET has 45-48 teachers in their CSC department, we have only 15 in ours. So you can tell the difference.
Yes, our laboratories are not as good as that of MIT, but ours is better than a Bangladeshi private university; in comparison to other public universities, it's quite good as well.
Students sometimes compare their classroom lectures to that of MIT or IIT. Don't you think we lag behind in terms of upgraded and technologically attractive classroom lectures or activities?
The subcontinent has witnessed a Bose, who, without any kind of technological support, co-invented the very famous Bose-Einstein theory. It doesn't actually matter whether a student is taught with a high-end video projector or just with a piece of chalk and blackboard.
Suppose you are a computer science student; all you need for your work is a computer and that's it. The brightest of my students are mostly from average or under-privileged backgrounds. Still, with their passion and devotion towards the subject, they are excelling at their field. I have students who have been offered lucrative jobs from Google, yet they denied those jobs just to serve their own country.
Another common complaint among the students is teaching proficiency. Do you agree with that?
Nothing can be purely good. There are good teachers and there are bad teachers. I have had both in my life. But many of my contemporary students and I have come out of that circle and found our own way of educating ourselves. And it's not true that all the teachers abroad are very good. I have studied abroad. I have been taught by some of the most excellent researchers and scientists. But being an excellent scientist doesn't make one a good teacher. Those great scientists who took my class often used to forget what they were teaching. So if one has a bad teacher s/he just has to improvise, take help from books and internet and educate oneself. I have done it, many students are doing it.
Bangladesh hardly has engineering industries. Can Bangladesh provide adequate job opportunities to our engineers? Isn't job satisfaction one of the reasons that engineers are moving abroad?
Engineering students often complain about the lack of facilities, instead of completely utilising the resources they have. Photo: AANTAKI RAISA
Only recently our economy has started to flourish; our GDP has increased. Until then, our very own survival was at stake. Our economy was completely dependent on agriculture. Only recently we have moved to this engineering industry. The only heavy industry I have seen is the ship-building industry. The other engineering industry that can flourish here is the software industry. Recently, many international companies are asking for thousands of software engineers from Bangladesh; unfortunately, we have failed to provide such large number of engineers!
These engineering-related industries need foreign investment. As most of the industries are hugely mechanised, they hardly require human workers.
Students have to focus on the industries which have scopes in Bangladesh. We have to teach the students how they can help the nation to develop. Even if a student chooses to work on something that doesn't have any scope in Bangladesh now, s/he should go abroad, acquire the knowledge, come back to the country and start a new arena with his or her expertise. But, what we are observing is, the students are leaving the country, getting a job abroad, applying for immigration, taking their families along, and never coming back.
The immigrant workers who are working abroad are earning us millions of foreign currency; our economy is greatly boosted by their income. But the very brightest minds of ours aren't contributing to our economy. Our engineers are studying abroad, publishing papers, doing great at their jobs and at best, letting the world know how marvelous the students of Bangladesh are. The migrant workers, who we do not even care about, are boosting our economy on a much larger scale than the brightest minds of the countries are.
You mentioned that we failed to provide efficient engineers when foreign investors wanted. Why do you think we are not producing enough efficient engineers?
Technologically rich laboratories are prerequisites to standard engineering education. Photo: AANTAKI RAISA
First of all, let me tell you, our engineering students aren't studying this subject because they love engineering or want to become engineers. They are studying it because they want jobs. Same goes for our medical students; they want money, they don't want to become doctors. If you ask a bright child what s/he wants to become, most probably s/he would answer- a scientist; because science is interesting and it's fun. But that child's parents wouldn't let him or her become a scientist. They'd pressure her or him to be an engineer. That child's dream is torn apart at the very root, just like that. But science and engineering are not the same thing. Science is much more interesting because it is science; and engineering is more about implementation, application and calculation. Unless you really have the passion, you wouldn't be good at it. So, when you force a student who wants to be a scientist to be an engineer, you put a lot of pressure on him or her. Thus, subject selection is faulty from the beginning.
There was a time when the telecommunication market was booming in Bangladesh and everyone was taking admission in communication engineering. Now the market is saturated and students are moving to computer science. And if a student fails to get admission in computer science s/he thinks her or his life is over. These are some very vital issues for an engineering student.
For my department, 30 students compete for one seat in an admission test. So those who get admission in this institution are the sharpest minds out of the 16 crore people in Bangladesh. Still, I have students who fail in courses, who barely pass. It's definitely not because they are not intelligent enough, it's because they aren't simply interested in the subject matter. But those who have come here out of their passion for the subject are doing so well that Google is competing to recruit them for their own company.
Then there are other problems that are inherent to Bangladesh. Political unrest, students' involvement in politics often hampers their education. Still, I think all of it is part of the training, part of life. I had a student who used to do all the cultural activities, who even joined political rallies, yet was an excellent student. So, you just have to accept the reality and move forth.
With the current job opportunities at the engineering sector, if a student wants to stay home and do something substantial, don't you think s/he will have to start a revolution?
I wouldn't go for a revolution. It's true our engineering industry is not that robust. But, the software industry has a great possibility here. What happens is that, software industries look for a large number of engineers which we fail to provide. Every year eight to nine thousand students graduate from computer science; of them only 200-400 students are usable. All others fail in interviews and are inefficient students. It's probably because we couldn't train them well or they didn't study hard. So, what we can do is train our students whenever and however they require. I once was asked to rank the engineering universities according to their quality. But I don't think it's of any use. Rather, if we can find a way to evaluate the engineering students individually and find out their flaws and train them in that particular area, we can actually produce more and better engineers. I had proposed such an evaluation method (called 'IT Professional Evaluation' or something like that) during the caretaker government's regime. But later, somehow, the proposal was cancelled. But this sort of training according to the need of a student could have helped them in being professionals.
You are one of those Bangladeshis who left a comfortable life abroad to serve their own country. What inspired you to take that risk?
If you think I took a risk, then you entirely misunderstood why I came back. I came back to do something for my own country; there is no risk in it! When I was abroad, yes I earned well, I had a comfortable life, but I had no satisfaction. I used to think what I was doing; and I saw I was doing nothing to help the country that has created me. That's the reason I came back. The satisfaction I get in making a good midterm question, is much higher than that I get when my paper is published. When I conduct an exam under all the political unrest, I feel I have done something for my country.
http://www.thedailystar.net/magazine/2011/05/03/education.htm
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I think those teacher read this topic they can not leave diu as well us.
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I think the ratio become decreases.
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Our university teachers are very much sincere and our university provides them the best facility .So I think, if they love us and our university, they cannot leave us and our university.