Daffodil International University
Faculties and Departments => Business Administration => Business & Entrepreneurship => BBA Discussion Forum => Topic started by: ashiqbest012 on July 27, 2010, 12:18:42 AM
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As we are students, we try to copy in the examination hall. Teachers try to prevent it. It is a very natural. Sometimes, I have seen our respective teachers check out our hands, calculator, scale, etc. after we enter the examination hall. I really appreciate it. However, students try to copy. Our teachers are so strict but a question arises, How do the students copy in the exam? As we are a student, so we know the using of the latest type of copying instrument nowadays, Such as, by mobile, iPod etc. Our university authority had banned carrying the mobile set, iPod etc. in the examination hall. That is really a good decision for our university.
Anyway, DIU forum is basically for the student, Students share their ideas, opinion, advice, suggestion etc. with teachers and authority. So, I decided to give some suggestion to our authority. Before giving the suggestion, I want to thank to our respective authorities and teachers because my maximum number of suggestion has already granted by authority and teachers.
The problems and the solutions
1. Dear Sir, as I have seen today, our purchasing committee has purchased a huge number of woods for making the chair. Well, I appreciate it but the color of the wood is slightly yellow or golden. So, we will get the opportunity to write on the chair. We may make the chair as an answer script. If the colour of the chair is black then there is no possibility of copying in the examination hall. Our university has a huge number of chairs in black colour. If you really want prevention of copying in the examination, my suggestion is, you have to turn the colour of the chair into yellow or golden to black as early as possible.
2. When our examination occurs, we can see our class room opened early before the teacher comes. So, we get the opportunity to copy on the wall or chair before the examiner comes. Our authority should establish a rule that, when our examiner comes near by the class, our class room should be opened.
3. When do we get a chance to write on the wall? Some students have a tendency to sit beside the wall. When we enter into the class for midterm or final examination, the chair should be arranged before by the authority. The seat must be arranged as if there are about 2 -3 feet distance between a student and wall around the whole class.
I strongly believe that, if our authority takes proper precautionary steps, this day is not so far, our university will be copying free university like politics free, smoking free and becoming the 1st ranking university of Bangladesh.
I love my university
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Thank you Mr. Ashiq, I appreciate your technique.
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Thank You lemon for supporting me. You have posed a topic named " Copying in Exam". So, I posted how to prevent Students copying in the exam and some Problem and what is the solution.
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Dear Ashiq and Limon, this is not a big problem to prevent copying in the exam hall. This is like 1 2 3. I am telling it later. The new chairs are good and the color of the chairs are good as well. This is not the right way by making black color chair to prevent it. Why authority will spend extra money for them. Just use some brain, the teachers will come on time in the exam hall. The room will open from the first for the students. I know in that time students will write in the wall or chair. But before staring exam if our teachers re-arrange the seat arrangement randomly the problem will solve easily.
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The ways Mr. Ashiq had directed is really effective. I thank him sincerely for thinking in this way. However, DIU is already in the midst of executing the ways he has shown.
Some more process that would help resisting the illegitimate copying:
1. Not to let students to go outside during the exam.
2. Generally, students sitting at the back benches hatch the ploy to copy from script/others during the exam comparing to those of front benches. Invigilators can interchange the students and/or keep close more attention to the students of back benches.
3. I found in some other institutions that invigilator(s) start gossiping or, come outside every now and then or, glue to the chairs all the time or, pay attention to check answer scripts during the exam instead of showing their intense vigilence.
4. Informer students can be rewarded by giving bonus marks. Students/ Classmates know better who is habituated to copying in the exam. Informaers can inform (at least, secretly) the invigilators so that the latter can perpend the issue gravely and can take necessary actions.
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Dear Debashish
Thanks for your comments. You are right but I am little bit disagree with you.
At first I want to say, I want to see my class room neat and clean and free from copying. Our friends always write on the wall, chair etc. As you know Mr. Debashish, we always learn from our environment. If any students write on the wall, chair, it influences us to copy on the wall or chair. It is really hampered of our moral character. A good student may be influenced by them. I don’t guess whatever, I said until now. It is the fact.
As you mention “This is not a big problem to prevent copying in the exam hall. This is like 1 2 3.â€
Is it really easy? I want to say you a story from my real experience, once I was in the examination hall; I forgot a point in the question answer. I asked to my friend what the next point is, he said to me Please see on the wall. Hahah… He is used to writing all of the point on the wall in the examination hall. A class room has 45 person’s capacity. It is a really tough job to arrange the student randomly. Isn’t it?
You also mention†Just use some brain, the teachers will come on time in the exam hall. The room will open from the first for the students. I know in that time students will write in the wall or chair. But before staring exam if our teachers re-arrange the seat arrangement randomly the problem will solve easily.†Before starting an exam we have to make prepare ourselves for the exam, if our teacher says to us go there or sit here. It will be disturbance for us. We always have to carry a calculator, eraser, pencil, entry card, answer script in the exam hall; we have to write our name, id, section, etc.… Then a teacher has to come in the examination hall about half hour before. Is it possible?
The new chairs are good and the color of the chairs is good as well. I obviously appreciate it and welcome to our authority.
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Paying due respest to the writing of Mr. Ashiq, I also cordially thank Mr. Debashish for his splendid relization.
Hope each and every students' mentality will follow those of Mr. Debashish & Mr. Ashiq.
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Thank You Mr. Shamim Ansary.
Some student has a tendency to copy in the examination and i have seen they always carry good C.G.P.A. Sometimes they use a small piece of paper for copying.
Thank you for supporting me and give your attractive valuable advice.
I expect the authority should justify it.
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Dear Ashiq, re-arrangement is the simple way to reduce it if we the students wants to engage ourselves in doing this types of bad works. If you the students can engage ourselves writing on the wall, chair, so why our teachers can't take the time to re-arrange our seats? Teachers come 10 minutes before and re-arrangement will take time only 2-3 minutes, I think it will not be disturbance. If we the students can do this types to bad works our teachers also can do that for our betterment.
Ashiq, you siad that "We always learn from our environment" good but my question is that, if you learn all the time from the environment than who will teach to change the environment? There is a short story like this, if you drop a little bit of black ink in a glass full of milk, the whole milk will look like blackish. If you forgot something try to remember it, if can't leave it. But why you will convinced by the bad environment? Why you don't do your own job? I think, when a person is honest, s/he have faith on him/er, have confident, stable on his/er ethics, there is no possibility to biased by someone or environment.
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Dear All
It is very important issue for us. And every institution is suffering this problem. It’s our ethics problem because the students do this unfairness. Some times a student observe that a student copying in the examination hall, why he/she does not inform to the teacher?
After our examination we see a list of name who did unfairness in the earlier examination. I letter also goes to the student’s parents from the University about the unfairness did by their son/daughter. They also restricted in that course.
I have a suggestion. The chair can be reducing in the examination hall. Say, a room can carry 30 chairs it could be set by 20. If there is following 4 columns it can be 3 columns. So, it would be better to the teacher to observe the student during the examination time.
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Dear my friend Debashish,
Ok man, you are won... Do you see, there is no authority comments in this post? Oh yes, you said that, "randomly arranged to sit :" :" :" :" If the faculty member can do it that is well. However, you have to know one things that our varsity has some "black ship". Do you know what is the black ship? Black is a person who does not listen to you. If you say, go to the left corner , Black sheep will be angry or will go to the right corner or may not move.
I did not copy in the exam hall in my life ever. I am afraid of it. So, I am not being influenced by anyone. However, I tried to establish that if we see anything we want to learn something. So, it may possible some good student may be influenced by them.
Ok, my friend take care...bye...I hope we will meet soon
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Thank you Mr. Kazi Shahin for your valuable suggestion.
I want to add one more think. Suppose, I wrote down on the wall. You have seen this and told to the faculty member. They may ask me" Did you do it?" I will say to the faculty member, "No, I did not do it"..
If you want to catch a thief, you have to catch him red handed. Otherwise, you cannot. It's my opinion. Who are involving unethical job, they may be our friend. Can I say to the faculty member, my friend has done it? Did you do it Mr. Kazi Shahin ever? I do not support copying but i cannot say against my friend because we are the classmate and with a team.
This is a discussion forum, so we are discussed here our common problem but nothing. Anybody will be hurt, this should not be our intention.
Thank you everyone to make this forum successfully but i still unhappy because authority did not comment until now.
Mr.Shamim Ansary
Mr.Debashish
Mr.kazi Shahin
Md.Lemon
Ms. bidita
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you are right Mr Kazi shahin i agree with your meaningful speeches..I think it is a right way to us..
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Ashiq, this is not a game that I won in the match. I just telling the real picture. We the students can stop this.
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Mr. Debashish, I know one thing that our upcoming final exam, our authority will strictly be prohibited copying. I am sure.
Don't take my comment in your mind. Ok....and I also told you the real picture of DIU.
You are trying to establish the solution in your way, and I am trying to establish the solution in my way.
However, our intention is removing the copying from DIU. Am I right Mr. Debashish?
We love our University.
Thank You for your valuable comment Mr. debashish.
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Dear all students,
(for those who placed their valuable comments and suggestions)
Curently i had a post regarding this issue. All you post your valuable comments regarding this issues.
Again i would like to focus on the center issue. Copying is illegal, moraly wrong and it's a wrong doing job.
No matter whatever University authority try to implement or teachers try to impose, nothing going to work untill
students change their attitude. Nobody stop copying accept students.
Students need to focus more on their study and need to improve their moral and ethical behavior. I would like to remind you all, teachers working very hard to stop this unethical practice and I mean it.
All the suggestions you made at your discussion are appreciated.
Again wish you all the best for your upcomming final exam.
Best regards
Siddiqur Rahman
Assistant Professor
Faculty of Business and Economics
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Dear Mr. Ashiq and Others,
The DIU Authority is very much concerned about the fact raised here and already necessary measures are being initiated to prevent unethical practice during exam. Our first initiative is to identify and wash out all the existing wall writings and make sure that students are unable to rewrite again, for upcoming exams invigilation process will be more effective to prevent/stop copying or such kinda activities.
But as you know it's all related to human ethics and morality so we all need to work together for building their derailed thoughts.
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@ Mr. Siddiqur.Rahman sir, you are absolutely right sir, Thank you sir for your comment. You are right sir, No matter whatever University authority try to implement or teachers try to impose, nothing going to work until
students change their attitude. Nobody stop copying accept students.
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@ Mr. Mondol sir, Thank you sir for your valuable comment. I am very happy . our authority will wash out wall writing very soon. Thank you sir.
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Cheating in the upcoming examinations at DIU is going to be stopped totally. Just wait and see. ........
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Dear students authority is taking the necessary steps and at the same time emphasizing on your valuable suggestions carefully and from next exam you will see the reflections of those suggestions.
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Thank you Mr. Kazi Shahin for your valuable suggestion.
I want to add one more think. Suppose, I wrote down on the wall. You have seen this and told to the faculty member. They may ask me" Did you do it?" I will say to the faculty member, "No, I did not do it"..
If you want to catch a thief, you have to catch him red handed. Otherwise, you cannot. It's my opinion. Who are involving unethical job, they may be our friend. Can I say to the faculty member, my friend has done it? Did you do it Mr. Kazi Shahin ever? I do not support copying but i cannot say against my friend because we are the classmate and with a team.
This is a discussion forum, so we are discussed here our common problem but nothing. Anybody will be hurt, this should not be our intention.
Thank you everyone to make this forum successfully but i still unhappy because authority did not comment until now.
Mr.Shamim Ansary
Mr.Debashish
Mr.kazi Shahin
Md.Lemon
Ms. bidita
Yeas Dear friend i am agree your idea.
we are practice this way .
thanks share it
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Dear all
According to Mr Ashiq opinion, friendship allows to do unethical jab? Somewhere of the forum I have read about the prerequisite & some criteria should follow to make a friend. Unfortunately if you can't tell against your friend, who will be benefited? Primarily you are helping your friend to don't tell against him/her. Do you think you are doing well for your friend? Fine, after the exam do you try to understand your friend to stop this unfair job? What should be happen after that? He/she will ready to accept you? If don't what you will do?
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You are right, Mr Kazi Shahin, But if we tell our faculty member, If our faculty member may expel him, my friend may become my enemy instead of friend. He may try to hamper me or anything can do with me. Who will be responsible for that? I , my friend or faculty member.
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Brother Ashiq
It’s not a problem at all. I think our faculty will keep secret your name. Simply you can pass small letter to them.
What do you think about it?
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hahhahaha,,,, Ok Mr. Kazi Shahin, i will try to do it.. but how will prove our faculty that he\she is really guilty? It may possible, suppose, i inform a person's name but he is innocent. My question is how will authority catch any student without any prove ?
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It seems like we are not discussing rather doing argue. It's better to take your choice.
Appreciate your cooperation.
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Dear all
I agree with all of you but here is some problem...I suggest Can Authority decorate our class room wall...??/
One more thing we should keep our mind strong and honest for sitting exam hall and also we should concern about our friend who is doing like this..
Authority should permit one more thing that is a free classes before exam for concern about unfair means..
Continue we should keep trying about that matter...one day it will be good for students ...
Always let it try ...
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Dear Bidita,thanks fr ur suggestion yes the authority is planning to decorate the class room wall in such a way so that not only no one can write on it but also it will look nice.U wrote "Authority should permit one more thing that is a free classes before exam for concern about unfair means.." Good idea.But the thing is that if student him/herself is not cooperative all our effort will go in vein.Each n everyone should keep in mind and take an oath inside him/her that I wont copy in the exam hall.Cant we dream for that day when we can say that we dont need to go for any action to prevent copying in the exam hall as our students are completely free from it?I hope that day is not too far away.
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Great post . I appreciate it.
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Thank you Ms Aziz
For appreciate my post yes i agree some problems are not always removable...but we try to minimize it...
And we should be continue our try...and yes I hope that day is not too far away....
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Thank you Ms.Bidita, You are absolutely right. I hope, the student of DIU will make copying free environment.
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Thanks all
I hope, we got a very good environment in up-coming final exam.
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Virus means bad news which creates transmissible disease and the solution is anti virus.If virus is copying in exam then anti virus is not to copy in the exam.So please pass your anti virus to your friends who are affected by virus.Hope the virus affected number is very few so it wont take enough time to eliminate as maximum is possessing the anti virus and DIU authority is always there to support you to create better academic environment.
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Dear students,
Really nice discussion.I am appreciating your positive feelings.No doubt authority will take some steps to prevent the copying in upcoming examination.
Thank you very much,
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There is a good elaboration by Ms. Aziz. Virus and Anti Virus.
Dear Students
Please pass the Anti Virus, you have, to your friends who are affected by the VIRUS (Copying)
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Yes Mr.Mamun we have to find out the Virus....and cure them....
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Students always try to create ultra modern virus. On the other hand, authority always try to prevent it by ultra modern antivirus.
As I have seen in the exam room, authority has successfully cured it...
Thank you
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yeas mr ashik and other friends
last 20/7/2011 i am find out a copying person where teacher can not find him because of he is doing copying very modern way .
he is doing copying small paper and also put here warm for copying process.
when sir is coming he is closed her leg.
last of all i am finding this copying police and take it our sir.he is out of exam.
but her result is 3.88 out 4.
he is doing copying all exam even quiz.
but i am try to udrstand this person can not do it.
please all of our friends raise your hand and makes awareness for copying police.
because of if we are not help our friends how can they are copying.
thanks
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Good work Mr. Salam Sony.
You are really super HERO.. We are really proud of you.
Sometimes, we/our students see the different types of unfair in the exam room. But we are not eager to make him/her catch because of maintain the good relations with coping boy or girl. However, You help to your teacher catching the coping boy or girl.
We are really proud of you, and we should take a lesson from you.
Thank you
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Hey Sony; wonderful job. We should disclose to all this kinds of unfair means. We should curb dishonest people socially and also give punishment.
I know our teachers are very strict in exam hall. But bad luck is that the copiers are more expert.
I want to say towards copiers…. You are guys looks very funny (FOOLISH) while do copy. Our teacher sometimes failed to capture you but we are seeing you….!!!
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Mr sony
Well done to establish this problematic situation over here. But i want to know that some students are cheated themselves no doubt, and they succeed to this kind of bad manners. People thinks "woow you are a very good student because your CGPA is very good". Yes, some talented student in this University are in good position. But some are not good student but shows that they are good. Authority should be more strict about that. It will be minimize in the problem, Insallah. Allah will help these students and realize that cheating is a curse to there future.
Warmly
BIDITA
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Students should be developed their result. But the way should be the hard work, regular in class, concentrate in class, and attend in all exam, quiz and presentation. These simple things are must develop result and you will learn a lot. First learn then think about result. If you follow the right learning procedure then your result automatically will be develop.
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There have some students who may work hard but can’t make good result. The problem is you are not a bad student. You may have some mistakes…!! You can meet our beloved teacher and coordinator of CDC………..
S Y E D M I Z A N U R R A H M A N
Assistant Professor
Faculty of Business and Economics
rEcTiFy YouR selF
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Thanks all of my friends
please raise our awareness on this part.
i think that we are gating some result but relationship is not main factor.
because of we know that a person who are doing this unfair means he/she loss her carrier.
thats why we are taken this program can not help any unfair means person.
thanks for reply
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I think some students are one step ahead in copping. Our classroom are printed gray color for preventing copping.But some student make right use of it. They write by pencil and easily can see. I think copping will be prevent by students own willing power. So we have to arise from sleep.
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We have to set up a strong willingness in our mind to prevent copying in exam.
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If we cannot think the copying is very bad for our life and education, it cannot be possible to prevent this bad thing.So we must prepare our mind to prevent this thing and read more becuse reading is very easy if we do this peoperly and regularly.