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Title: Ecriture feminine...2nd WAVE of feminism...
Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:20:35 PM
I.        French Feminism
A.     Common agreement between French feminists
1.      Western thought has been based on a systematic repression of women's experience.
B.     Comparison
1.      Opposes on masculinist thinking
2.      Western culture as fundamentally oppressive, and phallogocentric
3.      Men objectifies the world through Symbolic discourse
4.      Resistance does take place in the form of jouissance
5.      Oppose women's bodily experience to the phallic-symbolic patterns embedded in Western thought

Source:
http://personal.wofford.edu/~hitchmoughsa/Writing.html


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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:21:40 PM
Contrasts

1.      Kristeva:
2.      Irigaray + Cixous:
a.      Women have been prevented from expressing their sexuality in itself
b.      Women must begin with their sexuality, bodies
c.      Speak in the new languages it calls for, they will establish a point of view (a site of différence)
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:22:29 PM
A.     Julia Kristeva

1.      Finds in psychoanalysis the concept of the bodily drives that survive cultural pressure in semiotic discourse (the gestural, rhythmic, language)
2.      Women, speak and write as hysterics
3.      Semiotic style: repetitive, spasmodic, separations
4.      Women should persist in challenging the discourses that stand
5.      The word “woman" represents as an attitude, men also have access to the jouissance (the emergence of bodily drive) that opposes phallogocentrism
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:23:34 PM
Luce Irigaray


1.      Women is different from men
2.      A world structured by man-centered
a.      Women has no way of knowing or  representing themselves
b.      Women’s bodies and sexual pleasure    have been absent or misrepresented in male discourse.
3.      A diffuse sexuality arising: two lips of the vulva, multiplicity of libidinal energies.
4.      Female sexuality v.s logic and language
5.      Women must recognize and assert their jouissance
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:25:01 PM
Hé1ène Cixous

1.      Women’s unconscious is totally different from men's
2.      Level of sexual pleasure is different
3.       The Laugh of the Medusa

a.      Female sexuality is superior to phallic single mindedness
b.      Masculine is inscribed within boundaries
c.      Her libido is cosmic, just as her unconscious, is worldwide

4.      Link women's diffuse sexuality to women's language-   written language
5.      Insists on the primacy of multiple, specifically female    libidinal impulses in women's unconscious
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:26:21 PM
Critique

A.     Idealist and essentialist:  Can the body be a source of self-   knowledge?
B.     Sexuality is not an innate quality, sexuality is not a natural given, but    rather is the consequence of social interactions, among people and    among signs   
C.     Sexist ideologies
D.     What about variations in class, in race, and in culture among women?
E.      Materialist feminists’ critique
F.      Whether the assertion of a shared female nature made by féminité    can help us in feminist action toward a variety of goals
G.     Colette Guillaumin, arguing along similar lines in Questions    féministés , points out that the psychic characteristics praised by    advocates of féminité have in fact been determined by the familial    and economic roles imposed on women by men.
H.     The author’s critique
1.      It neglects differences among women
2.      Understand and respect the diversity
3.     A monolithic vision of shared female sexuality
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:27:07 PM
Proposed Solutions

A.     To move outside the binary opposite
B.     Analyze the power-relationship
C.     Can the body be the source of a new discourse ,  Is it    possible to move from that state of unconscious    excitation directly to a written female text 
D.     But psychoanalytic theory and social experience    both suggest that the leap from body to language is    especially difficult for women
1.      Working against the concrete difficulties and the prejudices surrounding women's writing
2.      Indebted to the "body" of earlier women writers
3. Recognize it as a conscious response to socialiterary realities

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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:28:01 PM
Monique Wittig

A.     She is suspicious both of the oppositional thinking that defines woman in terms of man and of the mythical-idealist strain in certain formulations of féminité

Focus on women among themselves
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:28:53 PM
Recognition

A.     The critique of phallocentrism in all the material and ideological forms it has taken

B.     The call for new representations of women's consciousness
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:31:55 PM
From New Criticism to Feminism

1. autonomous self/text, universal human nature,               

Self/text—gender and sex--  determined by society and history, and more specifically, by patriarchal society.
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:34:58 PM
Feminisms: Starting Questions

Who is feminist?  Can a man be a feminist?
What are the differences between men and women?  (gender difference)
Biology--Is our body our destiny?
Personality--What is “being feminine” like?
Career Aptitude—Are there jobs unsuitable for women?
Writing--Do men and women write differently?
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:36:13 PM
Feminisms: Starting Questions(2)

Images of Women:
Are there any texts similar to “A Rose for Emily” or “Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?”
What are the traditional/stereotypical images of women? What’s wrong with them?
How do women deal with those traditional images?  Rejecting them completely?
How do women look at women and women’s images?  From a man’s perspective, or a woman’s?
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:37:23 PM
Feminisms: Starting Questions(3)

Feminine Writing, Feminist writings and Women’s work:
What is feminine writing?  Does it have definite features?
Are all women writers feminist writers?
What are the feminist strategies used in feminist writings and cultural productions?
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:38:28 PM
Feminisms: Starting Questions(4)

Body, Desire, Sexuality and Sexual Orientation:
How do women express/liberate their desires?  Is sexual liberation the only good way?  How about body sculpture?
How do we determine our sexual orientation? 
What is “good sex” and what is “bad”?
Should pornography be banned? And prostitution be legalized?
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:39:38 PM
 1. women‘s positions in patriarchal society and discourses
2. history of feminist movement & writings
 3. Feminisms and Gender Studies: Radical Feminism, French Feminism, Post-Feminism, Lesbian Feminism, Taiwanese Feminisms
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:42:22 PM
What is PATRIARCHY?

1. male domination and limitation of women in society;
2. male superiority in ideologies (e.g. Aristotle declared that "the female is female by virtue of a certain lack of qualities"; St. Thomas Aquinas:woman is an ‘imperfect man’; Confucius）
3. in language and literature (e.g. chairman, the universal "he"; God as "He";
4. in sex and biology (women as rapable, receptacle of sperm)
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:43:20 PM
Male Dominance in Literature

-Predominance of male writers
-Women limited to writing in certain genres
 (e.g. diary, letter, romance).
-Stereotypical presentation of women
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:44:05 PM
Male Dominance in Literature (2): Images of Women

1) as objects of desire--e.g. "Araby," "La Belle Dame Sans Merci" "To His Coy Mistress" and courtly love poetry, “Shall I Compare Thee to a Summer’s Day?”
2) as symbol--"Young Goodman Brown," "Grecian Urn" "To Autumn"
3) as Other or Villain – Snow White’s Stepmother; Fatal Attraction
4) women inferior or subordinate--Eve, romance (knight and lady), 007 films and the other Hollywood films (Working Girl, Coma, Silence of the Lamb)
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:45:05 PM
Male Dominance in the Other Cultural Products

-Classical Nude Paintings
-Hollywood Films 
 (contemporary ambivalent ones: Switch)
-Music videos
-Commercials, advertisement
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:46:31 PM
Ways of Seeing by J. Berger

-nudity is a sign, different from being naked.
-The nude in traditional oil paintings either look at "us" (the spectator-owners in the past) or look at the mirror
-The nude shows signs of submissiveness (e.g. being languid, passive and thus available).
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:47:14 PM
Dream World (on music videos)

Who gets to tell the story about sexuality in music videos?
Roles of women: musicians, back-up singers, dancers, part of the story, subject of the song.
Main functions: to be looked at, decorative
Behavior: always sexually aroused and active; nyphomaniac
Activities: getting in and out of clothes; available for peeping.
Even female artists are trapped by this male way of looking at women.   
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:48:32 PM
“The Female Body”

“The female body has many uses.  It’s been used as a door-knocker, a bottle-opener, as a clock with a ticking belly, as something to hold up lampshades, as a nutcracker, just squeeze the brass legs together and out comes your nut.  . . . “  Margaret Atwood
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:53:22 PM
The Irigaray Reader
Introduction to Section I (by Margaret Whitford)

Patriarchy (defined by Irigaray)—“an exclusive respect for the genealogy of sons and fathers, and the competition between brothers” (Sexes et parentes, p.202)
maternal genealogy absent in western thought and institutions
coexistence of two genealogies (patriarchy and matriarchy), not simply a reversal or a replacement (p. 23)
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:54:37 PM
“[W]hereas de Beauvoir emphasizes access to the world of men (equality), Irigaray is suggesting the creation of difference” (p.24).

develops de Beauvoir’s idea of Woman as Other (I: the ‘other of the same’, the necessary negative of the male subject, all that he has repressed and disavowed.)
 
“but a self-defined woman who would not be satisfied with sameness, but whose otherness and difference would be given social and symbolic representation. Each sex would then be ‘other’ for the other sex” (p. 24-25).
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:55:08 PM
“Equal or Different?” (1986; 1988; 1990)
  “The Bodily Encounter with the Mother” (conference on “Women and Madness”, Montreal, 1981)—
 â€œwestern culture is founded not on parricide (as Freud hypothesized in Totem and Taboo, but on matricide” (p.25).
I’s reinterpretation of the mythology (Clytemnestra) = the installation of patriarchy, built over the sacrifice of the mother and her daughters.
“The major cultural taboo is on the relationship with the mother” (p.25).
 â€œThe stress on Oedipus, on castration, serves to conceal another severance, the cutting of the umbilical cord to the mother”
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:56:43 PM
-hatred from men and archaic projection of male imaginary (woman as devouring monster threatening madness and death) has made women suffer culturally
-“This relationship with the mother needs to be brought out of silence and into representation”
-contraception and the legalization of abortion = control women’s reproduction = women’s identity as women not as mothers (role as ‘reproducer of children, as nurse, as reproducer of labour-power’)
-warns the daughters against repeating the murder of the mother.
-To move out the role of ‘guardians of the body’ for men
-To put into words and symbolic representations the primitive relation with the mothers’ body.
-Speaking about the relationships between women = create a new identity within the symbolic order
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:57:19 PM
reiterated in “Women-Mothers: the Silent Substratum of the Social Order” (interview)
overlap the preoccupations of other English-speaking feminists:
1. Women and madness
2. the inadequacy or failure of the ‘sexual revolution’ from women’s point of view 
3. the importance of consciousness raising as a practice
4. the analysis of the family as a social device for appropriating women’s labour
5. the mother-daughter relationship
6. the attack on psychoanalysis (a discourse which normalize patriarchy); the re-evaluation of hysteria (as the unheard voice of the woman who can only speak through somatic symptoms)
7. Second-wave (post 1968) women (both as daughters and mothers) must liberate themselves with their mothers (p.26)
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:57:59 PM
** the end of 1970—Anglo-American feminism: began to theorize women’s difference (as a source of cultural possibility rather than simply as a source of oppression).
I = examining equality, mother’s function (as the infrastructure of Western civilisation), and the obliteration of women as women.
 Speculum, 1974
Catholic countries (France and Italy) = the importance of attending to motherhood as an institution, sanctioned by the divine
“Volume with contours” (extract from Speculum)
male imaginary, philosophical logos and system (of discourse and representation… ) that confine/define women
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:58:55 PM
Dominant fantasy of the mother/Male Representation of Women = a closed volume = a ‘receptacle for the (re)production of sameness’ and the ‘the support of (re)production
men’s desire = immobilize women (control and possession), appropriate by masculinity
men’s fear of the ‘open container’, the ‘incontournable volume’, the fluid, the mobile, not a solid ground/earth, or not mirror for subject
 contemporary theory in the feminine = a fresh attempt at terrorialization of the maternal-feminine
I = an other woman (exterior to all these masculine metaphorizations) = shake the foundation of patriarchy
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 02:59:40 PM
I = oppose an ‘other woman’, a woman ‘without common measure’ (who cannot be reduced to the qualifying measurements by which she is domesticated in male systems, who exceeds attempts to pin her down and confine her within a theoretical system, whose volume is ‘incontournable’ = against Lacanian image of woman as a hole, oppose the image of contiguity of two lips (mother-daughter, mother-father, maternal-paternal genealogies) = woman’s desire could be represented for-itself (not in male representation) (p.28)
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:01:07 PM
“Equal or Different?” (1986; 1988; 1990)

most claims to equality = superficial critique of culture, and utopian as a means to women’s liberation.
“The exploitation of women is based upon sexual difference, and can only be resolved through sexual difference” (p. 32).
neutralization of sex (contemporary feminists) = end of human race (divided into two genres—ensure its production and reproduction)
“Trying to suppress sexual difference is to invite a genocide (destruction of women and all values) more radical than any destruction that has ever existed in History” (p. 32).
define the value of a sex-specific genre [genre as sexuate (p. 33)] and form a culture that respects both genres
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:01:43 PM
We are still in the childhood of culture: “People constantly split into secondary but murderous rivalries without realizing that their primary and irreducible division is one between two genres” (p. 33).
We must give, or restore cultural values to female subjectivity (not simply procreative) e.g. The Second Sex
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:02:40 PM
The Bodily Encounter with the Mother” (conference on “Women and Madness”, Montreal, 1981)

Men-practitioners’ absence = a sign of their psychiatric practice (self-sufficient) = madness of women: their words are not heard (p 35).
Scientific discourses, serious scientific practices, therapeutic decisions and diagnoses = still the privilege of men (who define women’s function, social role, and the sexual identity)
“Each sex relates to madness in its own way” (p 35)
 â€œAll desire is connected to madness” (in the relationship with the mother—a mad desire (the ‘dark continent’ par excellence)) = shadows of our culture, it is its night and its hell
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:03:34 PM
the infrastructure of western culture = women as mothers, the unacknowledged foundation of the social order
“The maternal function underpins the social order and the order of desire (satisfying the individual and collective need)  e.g. in the religious dimension of need (women = mothers)
women’s/mothers’ own desire suppressed/forbidden by the law of the father
Women’s looking for their sexual identity and the meaning of motherhood: contraception, abortion…
“western culture is founded not on parricide (as Freud hypothesized in Totem and Taboo, but on matricide” (p.25).
Freud forgot a more archaic murder of the founding of a certain order in the polis (of the primal horde)
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:04:25 PM
Clytemnestra myth—
forgot the tragedy of Iphigenia
 Orestes (son) kills his mother for the establishment of a new order (commanded by the God-Father (Apollo))
The Furies = the ghosts of his mother = women in revolt, rising up like hysterics against the patriarchal power in the process of being established (p. 37).
the law of the primal horde and mythology:
 men bury women beneath the sanctuary
regulation Athenas (virgin-goddess, born of the father and obedient to his law in forsaking the mother)= perfect models of femininity (always veiled and dressed from head to toe)
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:05:19 PM
The murder of the mother →
the non-punishment of the son (Orestes), but punishment on daughter (Electra)
the burial of the madness of women (e.g. Clytemnestra)
the burial of women in madness (e.g. Jocasta)

In the process of the forming of the new order (based on matricide), a symbolic murder of the father is necessary for the coming of the son’s revenge (murder of ) on the mother:
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:06:34 PM
e.g. p. 38  1. Oedipus’ re-enacting of the madness of Orestes (primal crime—“It was a son’s duty to kill his father’s murderer’s, a duty that came before all others. But a son who killed his mother was abhorrent to gods and to men. A most sacred obligation was bound up with a most atrocious crime” (Hamilton 256))

Oedipus—violates the law of the father (Oedipus Complex): ambivalence (“focused on the father, but which is retroactively projected on to the archaic relationship with the body of the mother”) towards his father
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:07:32 PM

The mother’s body as an object for cathecting (to invest emotional energy in (a person, object or idea)) and later decathecting (i.e., separate, detach, give up, repress)
After the bodily encounter with the mother, Oedipus grows up (to establish a new social symbolic order)

mother already torn into pieces:
by Oedipus’s hatred
torn between the sons and the fathers, between sons (p.27, 38)
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:08:44 PM
the mother’s body (the life of the drives)
Partial drives – the body (primal womb—first home, first love) which brought us whole (bound together) into the world
 Q: “The genital drive is said to be the drive thanks to which the phallic penis takes back from the mother the power to give birth, to nourish, to dwell, to centre. The phallus erected where once there was the umbilical cord (the first bond with the mother)?” (p.38)
 the father and his law: sever the over-intimate bond with the primal womb (the danger of fusion, of death, of the sleep of death)
a proper name/forename [an extra-corporeal identity card] (language which privileges the masculine genre) replaces the most irreducible mark of birth: the navel (the irreducible trace of identity: the scar left when the cord was cut)


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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:09:09 PM
Psychoanalysis:
take a dim view of the first moment (bond with the womb and the imaginary and the symbolic of intra-uterine life)—“a taboo is in the air”
Psychoanalysis (the social order/our culture) → “the mother must remain forbidden, excluded. The father forbids the bodily encounter with the mother” (p. 38)

placenta (the first house surround us- child’s security blanket):
men tend to go back to the primal womb [the devouring mouth (p.41)] , seeking refuge in any open body (of other women as well) [danger, threat of contagion, contamination, engulfment in illness, madness and death] but are NOT allowed. 
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:10:12 PM
“No Jacob’s ladder for a return to the mother. Jacob’s ladder always climbs up to heaven, to the Father and his kingdom.”  p. 40

men need to feed their libido (sexual urge or drive) p. 39 and distanced/removed from their bodies/corporeal in (sexual) production p. 49 —need wife-mother/ a woman-wife (p. 43) = need women’s guardianship of their corporeal unity (p. 49)


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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:12:13 PM
Fantasy of Mother as a devouring monster and her womb as the devouring mouth:
able to give birth and life (power of procreation and creation/generative power)
steal the creating power or life essence from men?
womb/the silent and threatening belly = capture net of maternal power, the phallic mother → phallic threat, anxiety, phobia of castration fear (p. 41) [from man-father’s perspective]

Q: Fantasy based on Oedipus’s hatred: (still uninterrupted)
 makes a hole in the bellies of women/identity = a stake driven into the earth  (p. 41)

“Torn between the sons and the fathers, the stake or sacrifice in disputes between men (disputes for the ownership of the mother’s body), she is fragmented into bits and pieces, and therefore ‘unable to articulate her difference’” (p. 27)

“The (male) subject prefers to see her as the maternal-feminine rather than as a woman (castration and death, the unimaginable heterogamous other)” (p. 27) → “A hole in the texture of language corresponds to the forgetting of the scar of the navel” (p. 41).

Q: 1. phallic erection = the only sexual value? (in the patriarchal tradition)
  2. castration anxiety = the unconscious memory of such sacrifice?

The murder of the father = “a desire for one who artificially cut the link with the mother in order to take over the creative power of all worlds, especially the female world” (Wrong) →
     â€œsignifies a desire to take his [the father’s] place, a rival and competitive desire” (p. 42)
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:13:59 PM
Have fathers ever been asked to renounce being men? We do not have to renounce being women in order to be women”

“We are always mothers once we are women” (p. 43): bring children; love, desire, language, art, the social, the political, the religious…

We should give our mothers a new life instead of killing her/sacrificing her to the law of the father. We must invent a new language that does not replace the bodily encounter (paternal language), but which speaks corporeal while we seek a new relationship with the body of our mother.

Women should speak up rather than remain silent!! = outlet of their emotion
We should assert the genealogy/history of women = identity, subjectivity +
do not try to deny our mother (and her body) as our love object
assert love for other women [women-sisters]

The two modes of women’s jouissance (enjoyment):
programmed in a male libidinal economy
with their own sexual identity (against the norms of phallocratic economy)

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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:14:56 PM
Women-Mothers: the Silent Substratum of the Social Order  (published as an interview.

“The substratum is the woman who reproduces the social order, who is made this order’s infrastructure: the whole of our western culture is based upon the murder of the mother. The man-god-father killed the mother in order to take power” (p.47).

the hysteric—revolt and refusal, “a desire for/of the living mother who would be more than a reproductive body in the pay of the polis, a living, loving woman” (p. 47-8)
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 06, 2011, 03:15:41 PM
“the only path that remains open to us is madness” (p. 48)

We need language to define madness.
Women suffer in their bodies (inaudible)

Patriarchy discourse = discourse of men about women (objects/silence)

“Being guardians of their corporeal unity, we cannot be beings of desire… desire is movement.”

the so-called ‘sexual liberation’ lay trap

(Greek) relationship to mother = relationship to women

Mother= function = no personal language and identity
 
mother/daughter, daughter/mother relationship
   → say goodbye to maternal omnipotence and establish a woman-to-woman relationship of reciprocity  * mothers = daughters

“Liberate ourselves along with our mothers” (p. 50)

“We [women] lack speech”
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Post by: Tamanna Islam on December 07, 2011, 10:18:48 PM
some images could really complement your piece! :)
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 07, 2011, 10:36:04 PM
exactly, but for that you really need to update the forum a lot ;)
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Post by: Ferdousi Begum on December 07, 2011, 11:02:30 PM
a tough one!
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 07, 2011, 11:13:39 PM
:/
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Post by: Tamanna Islam on December 07, 2011, 11:27:35 PM
Gopa, could you possibly post something more about Helen Cixous?
And please let me know what does the word "sortis" refer to.
Regards
Tamanna
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Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on December 08, 2011, 07:44:08 PM
I will, api.
and "sortis" means "exit".
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Post by: Antara11 on February 08, 2012, 08:45:51 AM
good job!!!!!!!!!

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Post by: nafrin on February 08, 2012, 04:05:36 PM
my fvrt topic
Title: Re: Ecriture feminine...2nd WAVE of feminism...
Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on March 26, 2012, 12:00:45 PM
thank you very much, Antara ma'm. ;)

Title: Re: Ecriture feminine...2nd WAVE of feminism...
Post by: Gopa B. Caesar on March 26, 2012, 12:01:25 PM
mine as well, Afrin api :)
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Post by: nafrin on May 10, 2012, 03:06:03 PM
for me, the basic q is why the discussion of feminism???
Title: Re: Ecriture feminine...2nd WAVE of feminism...
Post by: shipra on June 10, 2012, 11:06:54 AM
Good post but a little difficult to understand. Can you make it easier?
Title: Re: Ecriture feminine...2nd WAVE of feminism...
Post by: nfe fouzia on November 03, 2013, 04:10:23 PM
... didn't know many of these information.
thanx for enlightening. ;)